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Old 11-17-2010 | 07:55 AM
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I remember thinking how our travel benefits sucked during the NW days, now under Delta, I just tell my family and friends that I have no flight benefits.
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Old 11-21-2010 | 07:04 AM
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Does Pinnacle have the option of refusing the 3 extra free flight days and just keep what is currently on the table? This is no "enhancement" whatsoever!
Flying as an S4, and looking at a particular int'l route that is heavy with buddy pass riders, most of the S4's got a seat - in business - and several S4's were left behind. With only one flight a day out of this particular city, and the next day's listing shows many S4's, the list just keeps growing each time they are rolled-over. Being a S3C sure makes a BIG difference trying to get back home in time for work.
Which is more important, an employee trying to get back home to continue the passengers to their connecting flights or a buddy pass rider coming home from vacation? Will someone please get this process fixed?! I guess as long as certain tiered employees have their positive space seats and buddy passes, everything is fine.

And after looking at the comparison sheet of what Mesaba had and what they are now getting...YIKES!
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Old 11-21-2010 | 08:39 AM
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The way it was explained to me (by company publication) was if you went on a flight like DTW-FRA, that spans two days, you will use 2 trans oceanic days. So if you went LAX-SYD, you would use 3 days thanks to crossing the international date line. Granted the return which departs and arrives the same day only uses 1 day.

Just go by a ZED on a foreign carrier, It'll probably cost less and you will probably get better service.
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Old 11-21-2010 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
The way it was explained to me (by company publication) was if you went on a flight like DTW-FRA, that spans two days, you will use 2 trans oceanic days. So if you went LAX-SYD, you would use 3 days thanks to crossing the international date line. Granted the return which departs and arrives the same day only uses 1 day.

Just go by a ZED on a foreign carrier, It'll probably cost less and you will probably get better service.
Yep, that's the plan with whoever is left; however, a lot of agreements were lost with the ID-type of agreements (ID75,90,95).

Does it cost DL more to allow unlimited transoceanics with DCI employees or what's the driving force behind it? Northwest never had a problem with it.
I know of mainline Ready Reserves who rarely work and they have unlimited int'l and they're gone on a trip almost more than they work. On the other hand, I know many DCI employees (non-pilot group) who work 40+ hrs/week, work both the ramp AND the ticket counter all for less than $8.00/hr. When they do find time to take a trip, these are the ones who will travel as a S4 (without seniority), hoping to make it back in time for their scheduled shift. Just had to vent..it's getting worse everytime a new "enhancement" is announced. Who is negotiating this anyways?
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Old 11-21-2010 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
The way it was explained to me (by company publication) was if you went on a flight like DTW-FRA, that spans two days, you will use 2 trans oceanic days. So if you went LAX-SYD, you would use 3 days thanks to crossing the international date line. Granted the return which departs and arrives the same day only uses 1 day.

Just go by a ZED on a foreign carrier, It'll probably cost less and you will probably get better service.
No, for transoceanic travel day computation, as long as the flight left on day 1, crosses midnight and lands in Europe on day 2, that still only counts as one travel day deduction.
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