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Old 11-24-2010 | 08:02 AM
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124/month! Staffing problems, I'd say so! This is either a desired outcome of management, abusing pilots to bail out the company or a result of the worst crew planning team in commercial aviation. Either way, it shows absolutely no concern for the employee quality of life, this proves the enormous disconnect between the flight crews and management. I'm sure CAL/UAL would be interested to hear this.

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Old 11-24-2010 | 08:11 AM
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This unfortunately is becoming systemic for at least the regional industry. Horizon has their new staffing levels going on too.

I doubt the mainline partners would care even in the slightest. As long as they are getting their regional lift as cheap as possible they won't notice that yes, the widgets actually do have lives.

I say kick them in the knee : )
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Old 11-24-2010 | 08:24 AM
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124/month? That's light day..
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Old 11-24-2010 | 08:27 AM
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I just don't get it. Sorry to bring it up, but with 3407 blamed partially on fatigued pilots, now you guys are (excessively) extending and JM'ing, increasing pilot fatigue to the limits? Have we learned nothing?

I would love to see the public's reaction if they get wind of this.

edit: We all get junior manned and extended, but I figured that Colgan would be under more scrutiny regarding tired and overworked pilots.

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Old 11-24-2010 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by el jefe
I just don't get it. Sorry to bring it up, but with 3407 blamed partially on fatigued pilots, now you guys are extending and JM'ing, increasing pilot fatigue to the limits? Have we learned nothing?

I would love to see the public's reaction if they get wind of this.
First you would have to explain to the general (laymen) public what the terms 'junior manning' and 'extensions' mean in practical terms and how it increases fatigue in the P121 environment.

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Old 11-24-2010 | 09:10 AM
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Enjoying have the former Director of Crew Planning/Tracking/whatever from Mesa? He was a joy over there also.
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Old 11-24-2010 | 10:59 AM
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It's nothing new to the industry, but is it really a problem if crews are accepting the JM's and extensions?

and yes, Mr. Hand is incompetent
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Old 11-24-2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
First you would have to explain to the general (laymen) public what the terms 'junior manning' and 'extensions' mean in practical terms and how it increases fatigue in the P121 environment.

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The guy who did the PBS special on 3407 did a decent job on explaining things to the general public, maybe he should do a follow-up...
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Old 11-24-2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by el jefe
I just don't get it. Sorry to bring it up, but with 3407 blamed partially on fatigued pilots, now you guys are (excessively) extending and JM'ing, increasing pilot fatigue to the limits? Have we learned nothing?

I would love to see the public's reaction if they get wind of this.

edit: We all get junior manned and extended, but I figured that Colgan would be under more scrutiny regarding tired and overworked pilots.

everyone at cjc knows buffalo news loves this stuff
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Old 11-24-2010 | 01:14 PM
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In preparation for mesaba pilots to be displaced when our Saab's get axed. No sense hiring new pilots and furloughing them in a few months.
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