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Old 12-02-2010 | 08:02 PM
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PaycheckCity.com | Web-Based Paycheck Calculators

Try that site out to figure out your take home pay.

per diem is not income! So don't plan on getting it.
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Old 12-02-2010 | 08:09 PM
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per diem is not income! So don't plan on getting it.
Sorry, but that's just not realistic. I understand that the amount varies (especially on reserve), which is why I asked for a general idea. Although it's not taxable income, it's still money coming in which I can use in my budgeting. And for determining whether I should make a job change or not, it must to be included in my considerations.

My perdiem at my current job more than covers my student loan payments... that's hardly insignificant.
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Old 12-02-2010 | 08:14 PM
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PaycheckCity.com | Web-Based Paycheck Calculators

Try that site out to figure out your take home pay.

per diem is not income! So don't plan on getting it.
Thanks for the link, though, that's a nice site!
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Old 12-02-2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by detpilot
Sorry, but that's just not realistic. I understand that the amount varies (especially on reserve), which is why I asked for a general idea. Although it's not taxable income, it's still money coming in which I can use in my budgeting. And for determining whether I should make a job change or not, it must to be included in my considerations.

My perdiem at my current job more than covers my student loan payments... that's hardly insignificant.
Actually.......
Forget it. Not worth my time to educate you. Some day you'll figure it out, and I'll say I told you so.
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Old 12-02-2010 | 08:47 PM
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Actually.......
Forget it. Not worth my time to educate you. Some day you'll figure it out, and I'll say I told you so.
I get the point you're trying to make... And I appreciate your time. But I know that per-diem doesn't equal zero, so the most realistic thing I can do is ask for averages and rules of thumb.
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Old 12-03-2010 | 05:43 AM
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Per diem is income. Although not w-2 iincome, it is tax free money coming into my pocket. To me that = income. Furthermore, it meets the basic definition of "income". Last year I made $4,600 in per diem tax free. For me to net $4,600 I would have had to have grossed approx $7,000. PLUS, when I itimized my per per diem on my tax return I got me an extra $900 on my refund. So my "realized" income when it comes to per diem is the same as had I made an extra $7,900 of 2-w earnings. The beauty is is that it is all tax free. I come out way ahead on mine and so will you unless you really spend/plan foolishly.
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Per diem is income. Although not w-2 iincome, it is tax free money coming into my pocket. To me that = income. Furthermore, it meets the basic definition of "income". Last year I made $4,600 in per diem tax free. For me to net $4,600 I would have had to have grossed approx $7,000. PLUS, when I itimized my per per diem on my tax return I got me an extra $900 on my refund. So my "realized" income when it comes to per diem is the same as had I made an extra $7,900 of 2-w earnings. The beauty is is that it is all tax free. I come out way ahead on mine and so will you unless you really spend/plan foolishly.
Tax free money to replace the money you've spent; that you would not have spent if you would have been at home.

I bet you eat Taco Bell, Wendy's, and all that other $6 meal cheap processed crap food. Gonna make it to 65?

And you probably are a 'slam clicker'.
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Originally Posted by B00sted
Tax free money to replace the money you've spent; that you would not have spent if you would have been at home.

I bet you eat Taco Bell, Wendy's, and all that other $6 meal cheap processed crap food. Gonna make it to 65?

And you probably are a 'slam clicker'.
Right, tax free money to replace what you spent and the entire point of the topic was you don't have to spend it all and you can still eat healthy and go out and have fun on layovers. I eat very healthy and will only do fast/junk food as a very last resort, rarely happens but when it does even fast food has healty choices. Again, healthy breakfast is almost always free and I never have problems getting by cheap/healthy for lunch. I splurge on layovers and enjoy myself and still come out way ahead. Sorry you can't do the same.

Will I make it to 65? I hope not! I'm on pace to have the option to retire before I'm 60. If I am still enjoying it I will keep on flying. I'll let ya know in 31 years if I make it to 65. Life is good
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Old 12-03-2010 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by B00sted
Tax free money to replace the money you've spent; that you would not have spent if you would have been at home.
good point. i don't eat when i'm at home. i spend no money when i'm at home. i hadn't thought this through...i might just give up this career as an airline pilot, and get a regular job where i'm at home instead of traveling, because i spend no money that way! wow.
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Old 12-03-2010 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by B00sted
Tax free money to replace the money you've spent; that you would not have spent if you would have been at home.

I bet you eat Taco Bell, Wendy's, and all that other $6 meal cheap processed crap food. Gonna make it to 65?

And you probably are a 'slam clicker'.
So let me get this straight- if you DON'T spend EVERY dollar of your per-diem while on the road, you're an unhealthy slam-clicker? I think I understand your logic now, of course it's not income if you live like Bernie Madoff on your layovers...

Myself, I plan to exercise some self control (don't have much of a choice), and I have had a good time on the majority of my layovers.
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