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clearprop 02-21-2011 12:19 PM

Has anyone heard anything about SkyWest having trouble getting Sim time for newbies?

Vegaspilot 02-21-2011 01:12 PM

I'm still waiting for the "pilot shortage" to kick in. Been sitting on the side lines for almost a year now without much of a peep.

proskuneho 02-21-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 951530)
No doubt pay will attract qualified applicants. I know there are hundreds of flight instructors, chief pilots, guys in management at flight schools all who will never leave their job because they don't want to take a pay cut to to go to a regional, have a worse schedule, and not see their family every might.

Yes, that's what I have been doing for several years. For most flight schools, the pay to these people is also criminal - mainly because the student base has dried up with the financing. I remember managing a flight school during the last big hiring rush, when good flight instructors were hard to find. I would rather make $22,000 at a regional than manage 15 brand new CFIs (that will leave in three months) again. Working 12+ hr days, usually 6 days a week and bringing that stress home to my family is not worth the abysmal salary. :rolleyes:

Cruz5350 02-21-2011 02:11 PM

Even if they started me at 40K I'm having serious doubts about leave my non flying aviation job. Heck my starting base salary is 45k not counting commission and I'm only 2 months into my job. I might never make 150K a year like a major pilot would, but consistent 65-75K a year for a life time might be more than 25k, 30k, etc etc as you slowly progress up.

Flyby1206 02-21-2011 03:36 PM

Here is a thread on airliners.net referencing the foreign carriers having the same problems:

Pilot Shortage At Swiss — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net

Cal Varnson 02-21-2011 03:47 PM

I'm not an expert on anything, but wouldn't the ever increasing price of oil along with the fiscal problems of the states have at least some negative impact on demand for air travel in the not-too-distant future? It just seems that high energy prices and sluggish, at best, economic conditions don't seem to be going away any time soon.

clipperskipper 02-21-2011 04:48 PM

They'll hire some high-timers too, I received an email from Chuck Colgan today after sending a resume through their site.

atpcliff 02-21-2011 04:58 PM

I WAS able to get an interview with them back in April, but ONLY because I knew a guy there. Now, I'm sure they're way more desparate.

Oversease the following airlines are having difficulty hiring:
KAL
All the airlines in China (except Cathay)
Emirates
Qatar
LAN
Many places in Asia, the ME and Africa.
Turkish
etc., etc.

Outlaw2097 02-21-2011 05:56 PM

Mins are on their way down...but who dare be the one to go back to 250 wet?

Itll happen so to grandfather enough newbies in before 1500 is in place. Otherwise they will have to be some serious reform to reel in those higher flight time pilots to right seat regional life.

Flying Pig 02-21-2011 06:04 PM

Well, well, well...

Here I am perusing the Airline Pilot Central Forum after being out of the industry for 10 years. All of a sudden there's talk of a shortage of professional airline pilots. How exciting!!:D

Hmmm...Maybe I should leave my steady job with great pay, benefits and a fabulous retirement to return to the skies as a professional airline pilot. I have the ATP, type rating and a couple thousand hours of 121 flight time. I'd have a good shot!!;)

Let's see... $18,000/year (maybe), used and abused on Ready Reserve, Commute on my days off, fax a document to crew scheduling proving that my father-in-law died, pray daily not to hear the "F" word (furlough)...

Nevermind!:mad:


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