Only post SLI probably. Maybe not then depending on if there are fences or not.

 

FYI- a bottom lineholder at DL is 15-16 days off.

Was making more than 100k at year 3...

Just sayin! 100k isn't what it used to be, and to have to top out at that with our qualifications is selling yourself way short. While you argue over whether XJ has better workrules than this new contract, it's all crap compared to even the remnants of a concessionary contract at the big leagues. THAT is what it should be compared to and what should be strived for.

 

Agree 100%. Read my post again. Didn't say I planned on staying. I plan to move on soon. I just have a good quality of life now. I never take the worries of my job home. My buddies do. It's been stagnant lately I know. Give it some time and have some perspective. Enjoy the ride.

 

Good deal.. I was more pointing out the irony in the arguing over who's got the industry leading contract and crap, as well as the QOL and 100k statement. It's like fat kids arguing over who wouldn't get out last in a game of dodgeball, haha. The fact is that it is a completely different life on the other side of the coin! That is what the regional contracts should be striving for in compensation... not rehasing the same crap over and over.

Perspective is key, and I'm simply trying to help those here have some perspective. Hopefully the pickings get a bit less slim here in the future as well so those that want to move on and are able to can.

 

Yup. Having the best regional contract is like having the nicest Pacer on the block.

 

You mean other jobs like long haul trucker, merchant seaman, and railroad engineer?

If you didn't notice, this is a transportation industry. We move things over long distances. That pretty much means we won't be home every night. Deal with it or move on. If you are in love with flying, there are plenty of "day jobs" for pilots. Find one and be happy.

 

Everytime I pushed for increases I was told that we are a Regional not SWA. The Union told me they didn't leave a single cent on the table. I wanted a contract that made it so expensive for Delta they would just assume take the flying back. That is what every Regional pilot should push for, instead everyone was worried about losing there job if the contract was voted down. This industry is never going to move forward. Again I ask, what kind of career expectations do people have at Pinnacle? Only a select top few who got stuck here because of 9/11 should have expectations, my only expectation is to get the heck out of here in the next two years.

 

I think you are confused about the term "career expectations" when applied to a merger. The term refers to what is likely to happen to an employee group if they had continued on alone or status quo. In this case, Colgan would have never had the cash to buy Q400s and double the size of thier operation. Pre-purchase a Colgan first officer would have to wait for Captains to leave to greener partures before they would get a chance at moving up and getting an upgrade, the same goes for Pinnacle. At Mesaba, Delta was already parking the Saabs and Mesaba was preparing for another round of massive furloughs. Had is not been for the purchase and merger with Colgan the expectation for a Mesaba pilot was furlough for the bottom 40-50%, downgrade for the 25-50% pilots and decreased QOL for the top 25%.

 

YES YES YES! They should take it all back. I dont want it!

 

Let's not forget the 120 most undesirable airframes in the world that Pinnacle brings, everyone knows those are going away as soon as they can get rid of them. Not to mention performance numbers allowing the parent airline legally able to withdraw all flying. If Pinnacle would have continued on the path they were going then no one there would have a job, that doesn't bode well for your career expectations by the definition you set. I would have liked my so called career expectations more at Colgan with all the Q400s or even at XJ with the flow and solid performance numbers leading to more flying despite the loss of the Saabs. I guess this is how these things work though, we see things from our own perspective and think our own side should be on top. In the end this debate is futile, what is decided is decided. We all know it will be a mix of relative seniority and DOH. Really, what more do you want?