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Eagle or Pinnacle??
Which one would you choose??
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Originally Posted by jmartin
(Post 952743)
Which one would you choose??
Try to pick one you won't have to commute going to. If you have any specific questions I'd be happy to answer them. That said, there are a lot of opportunities opening up at the new Pinnacle as well as a decent amount of hiring scheduled for this year. |
4 weeks ago i would have said Eagle all the way, but now with a possible pending spin off, and Pinnacle having a new contract signed last week (giving at least Mesaba pilots a raise, not 100% sure about everyone, don't want to give out bad info), i would lean towards Pinnacle, they seem like the stronger for the immediate future. Just my .02 cents!
I also agree with Lone Palm, whichever one would give you no commute, or the easiest commute. |
Well I will relocate to both places... I have an offer with Eagle, and could get an interview with Pinnacle. I'd love ATL base, if not, I'd move to ORD with Eagle..
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Originally Posted by quinny89
(Post 952791)
4 weeks ago i would have said Eagle all the way, but now with a possible pending spin off, and Pinnacle having a new contract signed last week (giving at least Mesaba pilots a raise, not 100% sure about everyone, don't want to give out bad info), i would lean towards Pinnacle, they seem like the stronger for the immediate future. Just my .02 cents!
I also agree with Lone Palm, whichever one would give you no commute, or the easiest commute. |
Originally Posted by jmartin
(Post 952833)
Well I will relocate to both places... I have an offer with Eagle, and could get an interview with Pinnacle. I'd love ATL base, if not, I'd move to ORD with Eagle..
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 952852)
Lol, try everyone got a raise except Mesaba
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Why would you NOT want to work for Pinnacle? Are you trying to say it's not a good company? This post made me upset, so I signed up to ask you this question.
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I'm waiting for an answer.
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Originally Posted by quinny89
(Post 952918)
My buddy flies for Mesaba, said he got a raise that begins on the 18th?
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 952931)
The majority at XJ did not get a raise, he must be a jet FO if he got one.
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well 200 fo got $1 raise so i guess you call that a raise. 900 guys i think got more. The 2 other carries had much larger raises then we got.
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Originally Posted by PinkSlip
(Post 952923)
Why would you NOT want to work for Pinnacle? Are you trying to say it's not a good company? This post made me upset, so I signed up to ask you this question.
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Originally Posted by PinkSlip
(Post 952923)
Why would you NOT want to work for Pinnacle? Are you trying to say it's not a good company? This post made me upset, so I signed up to ask you this question.
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Originally Posted by PinkSlip
(Post 952923)
Why would you NOT want to work for Pinnacle? Are you trying to say it's not a good company? This post made me upset, so I signed up to ask you this question.
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Come to pinnacle as you will be below me on the list :D:D:D
All bs aside , I have only been here since sept of last year and I have no complaints. I have gotten extended only once and the flight ended up getting canceled so I didn't have to do it. Otter than that knock on wood I have had a very easy going nice experience. I knot not everyone has had such luck here , and I am also coming into this place when things sound like they may turn around. Guys have been on reserve here for years with the old contract. Unlike me maybe the timing was better. But no one could have predicted anything. I also have a buddy that went to eagle . And he is very pleased as well . Says he is having a good time overall. He did mention training was tough , Atl as of now is a more senior base, but I wouldn't be surprised if that changed with the new pay rate. A guy only one class ahead of me Just got called for atl on the 900 and He is was junior. So things change all the time . Good luck |
Originally Posted by PinkSlip
(Post 952923)
Why would you NOT want to work for Pinnacle? Are you trying to say it's not a good company? This post made me upset, so I signed up to ask you this question.
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
(Post 953109)
Is this the one and only "Pink Slip Peoples"??? If so, don't you have better things to be doing, like giving out pinks??
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Both are great companies, and offer very similar compensation, bases, equip, etc.
I can only speak for Eagle, but it has been steady and stable for the past decade. No telling what tomorrow holds, but we will find out then. The training department is top notch. The training is intense and they expect you to study hard, but you will come out as a better pilot than you went in. Eagle is hiring 600 for 2011, classes every two weeks and all bases/equip except LAX. |
Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 953114)
If that is indeed the guy with the nickname I would first be surprised, but I would also say the guy is actually fair. He simply expects you to know your stuff and be by the book.
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Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 953114)
If that is indeed the guy with the nickname I would first be surprised, but I would also say the guy is actually fair. He simply expects you to know your stuff and be by the book.
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 953161)
You are not allowed to say that on here. You will be labeled a "company man" and a liar for defending any check airman, even if he gave the pink slip for being 4 months behind on Jepps, turning the screen red on 3 V1 cuts or turning into a mountain in Helena while making up your own missed approach by flying the terrain mode map. Trust me it happened to me :)
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If the 90%+ yes vote for the new contract says anything about the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Cogan guys then I say go to Eagle because clearly the other guys have no interest in improving this profession and are bringing us all down.
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 952852)
Lol, try everyone got a raise except Mesaba
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 953161)
You are not allowed to say that on here. You will be labeled a "company man" and a liar for defending any check airman, even if he gave the pink slip for being 4 months behind on Jepps, turning the screen red on 3 V1 cuts or turning into a mountain in Helena while making up your own missed approach by flying the terrain mode map. Trust me it happened to me :)
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Originally Posted by Sturbmaster
(Post 953271)
Getting to keep your jobs is the raise Mesaba got. How many of your guys would have got furloughed if we didn't buy you guys?
I love how people are so tied to their companies when it suits them and bashing them when they feel like it. Hypocrites |
Originally Posted by Sturbmaster
(Post 953271)
Getting to keep your jobs is the raise Mesaba got. How many of your guys would have got furloughed if we didn't buy you guys?
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 953269)
If the 90%+ yes vote for the new contract says anything about the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Cogan guys then I say go to Eagle because clearly the other guys have no interest in improving this profession and are bringing us all down.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 953288)
you didnt buy anything. you just happen to work for a bottom feeding regional that has made enough money off your own back that THEY bought another airline. Your YES vote hurts us all.
I haven't been called a bottom feeder in months. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 953161)
he gave the pink slip for being 4 months behind on Jepps, turning the screen red on 3 V1 cuts or turning into a mountain in Helena while making up your own missed approach by flying the terrain mode map.
Could it be that "Pink-Slip" creates a "nerve-racking" environment by his straight face, acts like a drill sergeant, poor choice of words, and has no conversational skills what-so-ever, no people skills, turns up the heat (figuratively) during the checkride, which massively contributes to a terrible reputation that sets the stage for poor performance in the simulator and brings out the worst during your checkride??? Could it be any of those??? PS....I hope it is really you pinkslip, and I hope you read this! |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 953269)
If the 90%+ yes vote for the new contract says anything about the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Cogan guys then I say go to Eagle because clearly the other guys have no interest in improving this profession and are bringing us all down.
Oh the irony...I am currently making $2/hr more than my CA counterpart at XJT, and come DEC it will be $6/hr more and cheaper health insurance and I didn't have to waste money commuting or moving....care to explain that one kimosabe? |
Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 953171)
Some of the "company" guys got a bit spooled up over the bonus because it involved money. While I don't appreciate some of the personal issues that caused, but I understand the gripe. Call me a "Company" guy, if you can work out some positive space tickets from MEM-DTW-MEM that would be great too....
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 953269)
If the 90%+ yes vote for the new contract says anything about the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Cogan guys then I say go to Eagle because clearly the other guys have no interest in improving this profession and are bringing us all down.
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 953560)
Or maybe a 90% yes vote says it's probably a pretty decent contract?
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 953560)
Or maybe a 90% yes vote says it's probably a pretty decent contract?
no you and I just voted it in at all costs so we could get that quick upgrade... |
Originally Posted by jayray2
(Post 920245)
Yeah, sure, you'd vote no on a contract that gives you (in Mesaba's case) higher pay rates, whipsaw/fragmentation protection, better work rules and benefits all around, job security and an actual chance at an upgrade in two years (verses a possible job loss). I'm sure you would vote no.
Originally Posted by jayray2
(Post 953564)
Or maybe it says the Union did a good deal of selling it. I've talked to very few people that thought it was a good contract. I have talked to a lot of people that were afraid for their jobs and voted yes. This contract is not industry leading, it is average, it did not raise the industry at the top, it just lifted two carriers up to average.
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
(Post 953294)
This would be original if it were not coming from an express jet FO. It has been said before, many times over. The express jet/colgan debate has been going strong for a few years now.
So we can avoid your post being construed as pure flamebait I would be open to hear your thoughts on a few subjects. -What have you specifically done to improve this industry other than getting hired at express jet under a contract that was negotiated prior to your arrival? -Under the Pinnacle/Colgan/Mesaba new JCBA, which points in particular do you feel bring down the industry as a whole? Just trying to keep this on topic since the Colgan bottom feeder comments are as common place as the PFT threads and go jet inquiries. Id be interested in hearing your points.
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 895717)
I'm asking for higher priority. When the people get on my plane they are getting on Continental flight xxxx. Why is that I shouldnt have equal nonrev benefits? And for that matter pay, contract, and seniority at said airline. The second you agree that you shouldnt have the same board priority as a mainline employee is the second you agree that you are not as important as them. When you get left behind because the mainline ramper that just got hired last week beat you on you are saying that he is more important than you. I would say that you or I have much more invested in that mainline carrier than said ramper. WAKE UP!
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 896362)
to all the people giving me crap: If you work at mainline I beg beg beg you to bring the flying back to mainline and put me out of work. The sad part about this industry is that in an effort to reach my end goal of working at a major airline and having all the perks that come along with that goal I have to be apart of the problem that brings down the future of that position. The military is an option instead of the RJ but lets be honest, once you go military these days you are going military for life.
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 953269)
If the 90%+ yes vote for the new contract says anything about the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Cogan guys then I say go to Eagle because clearly the other guys have no interest in improving this profession and are bringing us all down.
But then you when the mainline guys aren't looking you tell the world how you have the same job they do so you should get the same nonrev priority on THEIR airplanes as they do. So tell me how much you have made so far in your first year there and what you have that makes your crappy regional better than our crappy regional? |
Originally Posted by jayray2
(Post 953564)
Or maybe it says the Union did a good deal of selling it. I've talked to very few people that thought it was a good contract. I have talked to a lot of people that were afraid for their jobs and voted yes. This contract is not industry leading, it is average, it did not raise the industry at the top, it just lifted two carriers up to average.
It is not average by any respect, it brought Pinnacle and Colgan up to the top standards for a regional. |
Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 953571)
Why the change of heart? Just curious personally I don't care how anyone voted for themseles.
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Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 953280)
You bought us, that's funny.
I love how people are so tied to their companies when it suits them and bashing them when they feel like it. Hypocrites |
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