It looks like it doesn't it?

(still missing the point...)

the point is that if you want to work for a scab airline just to get quick upgrade time,then you're a tool that doesn't care how the rest of the industry is affected by noob pilots all hot up for a jet, and willing to fly 70-90 pax jets for 1 dollar more an hour at block or worse compared to what a 50 seat flyer gets at block or better...

Go fly 200 hours and get on with a respected regional and do yourself and EVERY OTHER PILOT IN THE INDUSTRY A FAVOR AND DON'T SELL OUT. Good luck and tell your friends not to sell out either. You'll see what I mean in a year.

You obviously haven't experienced mesa...I walked out of a mesa upgrade class (and years of seniority) to start over elsewhere. That's how bad it is. Besides, I saw enough of mesa's operational catastrophes this summer to conclude that they are probably going to get fired by one or more of their partners asap...you think being a 5 year FO is bad, TRY BEING A 5 YEAR FO AT F&%KING MESA!!!


Also, my seniority was moving about 5-8 numbers a month (yes five) out of 1900 pilots...that accounts for a retirements, motorcycle accidents, and military recalls...and one maybe two pilots PER MONTH getting hired at the majors! That is a very, very bad number...those who upgrade now will be on reserve for life, if they don't get flushed back to FO when the layoffs start.

Rickair, who did you go fly for after leaving Mesa?

You better be sure before you show up for a job interview. One of the reasons you might be having trouble getting job offers is because the amount of time you have smells fishy to some folks. Better make sure you can explain it or the airlines will show you the door faster than the flight schools.

PS
I was in the same boat and always had more time than my peers because I had gotten my private 2 years before going to UND and then spent about 100 hours tooling around with friends and family. So when most guys were starting with 0 time or 40 hours and a PPL, I showed up with about 175 hours. Raised some eyebrows when I came around looking for a CFI job but since it was properly logged and I could talk about it in detail there was never a problem.

A large, growing regional with a strong presence in the west.

Rick, I am really sorry you had to quit and start all over. I had no idea things were so bad at Mesa. By your posts and insight into the industry I always assumed you were a captain. Sorry you had to leave just before upgrade. Best of luck with your new job. I've found that most changes (whether professional or personal) end up being worth it in the long run. Complacency is what drags us on. Good Luck!

smoke, I see your point but then following your logic you can call all regionals "scab airlines". They all took away mainline jobs. All of them. All of them do the same job cheaper. Some undercut more than others but they are all in the same boat. A few dollars more here or a few dollars less there doesn't set them apart. Block or better vs. block or worse doesn't define scab vs. no scab, either. At the end they are all filling a void created for them by the majors. It's not the regionals' fault.

I didn't mean that I wasn't sure of how I got it all, it's all properly logged and such. What I meant was that I have built it up here and there over time, which really isn't that much if you consider the fact that I do have 810 hours w/o instructing but keep in mind, 810 hours since 1993! I mean, the best way to explain it would be that I have been flying for that amount of time and have just been buying almost each and every hour. (W/ the help of some people needing their planes moved around, etc...)

Incidently, I didn't have any problem really finding a CFI job, I actually did get an offer from Pan Am but kind of put it on hold.