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01WJ 09-08-2006 12:55 PM

Airline Apps
 
How do you go about applying to companies such as Mesa that require 1000/100 but supposidly will hire people w/ lower times when airlineapps.com says it won't even display your application until you reach the 1000/100 minimums?

smoke 09-08-2006 01:52 PM

do yourself a favor and don't apply there

JoeyMeatballs 09-08-2006 02:11 PM

Applying to MESA?
 
You are not serious about applying to MESA are you, you are better of Instructing until you can get picked up by a real airline, oh just in case you were wondering Blowjets isnt one of them ;)

flynavyj 09-08-2006 11:15 PM

always seems easier to say when ur no longer on that side of the fence..."boy were things easy when i was a CFI"...It may not be great, but, might be a step up from where he's @, and who knows the situation.

01WJ 09-09-2006 01:26 AM

honestly, main reason I'm thinking about it is I'm having some issues finding a CFI job. I don't know if its true or not but people say that the reason is that everyone thinks I won't stick around for too long because I have about 800 some hours so they figure I'll stick around to 1000 (like a couple months) and leave.

So, I'm pretty much looking for what I can get, although I did get an interview w/ Scenic towards the end of the month. Anyone here work for them/have any input about them?

smoke 09-09-2006 07:45 AM

what's your multi time, i know people who got picked up with less than 600 and 60 hrs twin at xjt....mesa is honestly the ****tiest place to go, not mention the rest of the industry looks down at you for working for a cut-throat airline....

how did you get 800 hrs without instructing??? curious..

01WJ 09-09-2006 03:53 PM

I only have like 70 multi. It's actually kind of funny, I was just working with an instructor who was like 800 hours and only 70 multi? But honestly, I have never really seen a need to fly multi (at least for my purposes) because all the singles I fly will outrun almost all twins short of a baron, and still come damn close to the baron.

Regarding how I got 800TT w/o instructing, to be honest w/ you I'm not completely sure. I have been flying since I was about 10 years old (taking dual w/ an instructor until I got my student license), so a few hours added up there, but I think the majority of it has been recently working on ratings (Instrument - CFI, CFII, MEI, etc...) and taking trips out to California, Oregon, Minnesota, etc...

rickair7777 09-09-2006 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by 01WJ (Post 59219)
honestly, main reason I'm thinking about it is I'm having some issues finding a CFI job. I don't know if its true or not but people say that the reason is that everyone thinks I won't stick around for too long because I have about 800 some hours so they figure I'll stick around to 1000 (like a couple months) and leave.

So, I'm pretty much looking for what I can get, although I did get an interview w/ Scenic towards the end of the month. Anyone here work for them/have any input about them?


I understand what flynavy is saying, but in the case of mesa you really DO want to stay in general aviation rather than go there. 1000/100 will get you a real job somewhere else.

If you have some b@llz and absolutely can't scrounge up the hours any other way, you could go to mesa, get typed, fly 200 hours and then bail for a better carrier after a few months...you would have to ignore their attempts to harrass you into paying their $10,000 early-out penalty. The legality of enforcing that is apparently debatable.

sgrd0q 09-11-2006 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 59413)
I understand what flynavy is saying, but in the case of mesa you really DO want to stay in general aviation rather than go there. 1000/100 will get you a real job somewhere else.

Yes but 1000/100 will currently allow you a dash-8 upgrade in a few months and a left seat in a jet in another 18 months. Where else can you do that?

I am no fan of Mesa, but 3 to 5 (or 7!) years as a FO in a "good regional" (whatever your definition of a "good regional" might be) may not be preferable for some people.

smoke 09-11-2006 12:01 PM

you're missing the point


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