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BoilerUP 09-17-2006 07:05 AM

Exactly how did this turn into an Air Wisconsin vs. Expressjet fight?

The fact is if AWAC gets the 9/11 contract back, it will be better than Expressjet's current contract. If we don't, then contract we are working under now is Top 3 if not right behind XJT's.

AWAC got a good raise in March based in part on XJT's CA payrates. I say thank you for that! Regardless of what happens, I've heard XJT has a MUCH better trip trade/drop/swap system...and anything has got to be better than the piece of sh!t subject-to-screw-sked system AWAC is operating under.

Some of you new XJT FOs need to step away from the koolaid for a second and look at the big picture and last 5 years in United Express history. Air Wisconsin went from flying CRJs, Dorniers & 146s in DEN & ORD in 2002 to 70 CRJs for Airways on the east coast, killing the QOL of everybody on property and effectively causing more than 25% attrition in less than 12 months.

You guys flying an XR doesn't mean sh!t because its still a 50 seat airplane, and there are too many of them right now. XJT is a good place to be, a great airline and great company to work for...but unfortunately CAL put its bullseye squarely on you, just like UAL did with ACA then Air Wisconsin, and DAL is doing with Comair right now.

I have a few friends at XJT, U-I Pilot among them. I don't wish ill on you guys or anybody, and whatever happens, I hope nobody anywhere loses their jobs or gets downgraded.

Good luck to us all, and cut out this piddly infighting, sounding like a bunch of ****ed off schoolgirls fighting over a boy or something...

smoke 09-17-2006 04:38 PM

1 a fellow awac pilot brought the whole 69 airplane crap thing up.

2do awac's pilots have a copy of xjt's contract to compare??

3 who's new??

4 who said anything about XR's?? maybe i missed that?? they are cool looking though and nicer inside

CL65driver 09-17-2006 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 61477)
.....and cut out this piddly infighting, sounding like a bunch of ****ed off schoolgirls fighting over a boy or something...


Hehe.. so true! So true! :D

BoilerUP 09-17-2006 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by smoke (Post 61611)
1 a fellow awac pilot brought the whole 69 airplane crap thing up.

That's because XJT stands to lose a quarter of its fleet and as of yet has not formally announced what they are doing with them. No furloughs are planned and hiring is continuing and that is GREAT...but its only due diligance to consider the what the loss of those aircraft means.


2 do awac's pilots have a copy of xjt's contract to compare??
Yes, actually I do have a pdf copy of XJT's 2004 CBA - courtesy of XJT's NC Chair himself. It is an excellent contract, very well-rounded providing the highest W2s for 50 seat aircraft. If AWAC gets its 9/11 contract back, with its hourly rates and workrules, we will have the highest W2s. Not that it matters, cuz you won't hear anybody saying "mine is better than yours"...a rising tide lifts all ships. Its just a simple fact.

Like I said, this ain't an XJT vs. AWAC thing...quit making it into one.

smoke 09-17-2006 05:23 PM

that last line was not necessary.

i'm just simply responding to what others say :)

JoeyMeatballs 09-18-2006 07:07 AM

XJT vs AWAC
 
Both are top notch airlines, it should be XJT & AWAC vs MESA & BLOWJETS :)

G-Dog 09-18-2006 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 61782)
Both are top notch airlines, it should be XJT & AWAC vs MESA & BLOWJETS :)

I would love to see your face when the day comes and you need a ride somewhere and the only flight you can get to jumpseat on it a Mesa or Gojet flight.

JoeyMeatballs 09-18-2006 09:45 AM

hahah
 
hahahah just cause I Don't like em doesnt mean I would'nt give them a ride, I would hope they would feel the same

rickair7777 09-18-2006 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 61840)
hahahah just cause I Don't like em doesnt mean I would'nt give them a ride, I would hope they would feel the same


I don't like 'em, and I would NOT give them a ride.

BoilerUP 09-18-2006 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 61843)
I don't like 'em, and I would NOT give them a ride.

Mesa, GoJet, or both??


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