Search

Notices
Trans States Airlines Regional Airline

Trans States

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-01-2014 | 05:26 AM
  #4061  
CaptainCarl's Avatar
Thread Starter
I'm a man of my word.
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,883
Likes: 0
From: Devil's Advocate
Default

Originally Posted by bernouli
A pretty big push is taking place to kick 618 off property. The word 'ALPA' is being used more and more.

Maybe it will happen one day. That would yield roughly 750 pilots and 75 aircraft.
Forget ALPA man, c'mon over to Local 1224, we'll get y'all sorted out.

Good lord, y'all are up to 75 aircraft now?!
Old 03-01-2014 | 06:00 AM
  #4062  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by spuzzyair
The more likely scenario is Compass and TransStates.
You are probably correct.
Old 03-01-2014 | 06:05 AM
  #4063  
gvinflight's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
From: V1. No turning back now.
Default

I'll look again. But it wasn't that many airframes. And whoever said Dulles is closing, that sounds pretty far fetched to me...
Old 03-01-2014 | 06:07 AM
  #4064  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by gvinflight
I'll look again. But it wasn't that many airframes. And whoever said Dulles is closing, that sounds pretty far fetched to me...
Haven't heard anything about Dulles closing, but that it will be downsized. Most of the Dulles trips spend 3 or 4 days flying out of ORD.
Old 03-01-2014 | 06:08 AM
  #4065  
Line Holder
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 0
From: The Parlor
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat
You are probably correct.
Won't happen unless there is a contract for more 175s. They won't hitch a sinking ship to a profitable operation. Also Delta won't be happy and could tank both airlines if they pull flying from CP. Delta has alot invested into CP and they won't be happy about Hulas bringing someone into the party. I bet they'd buy CP back before they would allow CP to fly for someone else.
Old 03-01-2014 | 06:20 AM
  #4066  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by MrMustache
Won't happen unless there is a contract for more 175s. They won't hitch a sinking ship to a profitable operation. Also Delta won't be happy and could tank both airlines if they pull flying from CP. Delta has alot invested into CP and they won't be happy about Hulas bringing someone into the party. I bet they'd buy CP back before they would allow CP to fly for someone else.
Hard to say if any ship is sinking when the company is privately held and there is no publicly available information. Having worked on the operational side with multiple certificate operations, I can tell you they are very expensive compared to merging all into one certificate. Delta has no problem with Republic, ExpressJet, or SkyWest running multiple codeshares on one certificate. Delta has no interest in owning a regional carrier. The only reason Pinnacle was bought is they were looking at a shutdown in bankruptcy otherwise. They will spin off Endeavor before they buy another regional carrier.

Bottom line, Hulas owns all three and can do what he wants. And he will do what makes him the most money.
Old 03-01-2014 | 06:29 AM
  #4067  
Line Holder
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 0
From: The Parlor
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Hard to say if any ship is sinking when the company is privately held and there is no publicly available information. Having worked on the operational side with multiple certificate operations, I can tell you they are very expensive compared to merging all into one certificate. Delta has no problem with Republic, ExpressJet, or SkyWest running multiple codeshares on one certificate. Delta has no interest in owning a regional carrier. The only reason Pinnacle was bought is they were looking at a shutdown in bankruptcy otherwise. They will spin off Endeavor before they buy another regional carrier.

Bottom line, Hulas owns all three and can do what he wants. And he will do what makes him the most money.
You're right they could go out and fly for others but Delta would most likely try to cancel the flow which is a huge cost savings for Hulas. Let's face it TSA hasn't had anything going on for a long time except a couple airplanes get renewed every couple years. Compass is the preferred DCI carrier at the moment it seems, operationally we are the best or atleast second every month, if that goes away because we are messing around with a merger they will pull airplanes and Hulas will lose alot of money. They would have to tread lightly because Delta will do whatever they want if you **** them off. You know this, you saw it at 9E. A TSA merger would destroy Compass and any advantage they have compared to other regionals ( cost, performance) will be lost.
Old 03-01-2014 | 07:45 AM
  #4068  
minimwage4's Avatar
2 days off
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,853
Likes: 0
From: Embraer Systems Analyst
Default

Don't worry we won't ruin your perfect operation. If it was cheaper to merge, Hulas would have already merged all the certificates long ago. The only way I see a merger is if it helps with staffing.
Old 03-01-2014 | 08:07 AM
  #4069  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
From: horizontal
Default

Originally Posted by minimwage4
Don't worry we won't ruin your perfect operation. If it was cheaper to merge, Hulas would have already merged all the certificates long ago. The only way I see a merger is if it helps with staffing.
There are costs associated with a merger, but long term it makes sense, especially when you see the whipsaw strategy slowly failing. The evidence of RAH scuttling CHQ to staff for republic, and every other regional struggling to staff current flying, merging certificates to create cost savings and aid staffing becomes self evident. Not saying its gonna happen, but I'm sure that is an option that Hulas is strongly considering.
Old 03-01-2014 | 08:11 AM
  #4070  
spuzzyair
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by MrMustache
You're right they could go out and fly for others but Delta would most likely try to cancel the flow which is a huge cost savings for Hulas. Let's face it TSA hasn't had anything going on for a long time except a couple airplanes get renewed every couple years. Compass is the preferred DCI carrier at the moment it seems, operationally we are the best or atleast second every month, if that goes away because we are messing around with a merger they will pull airplanes and Hulas will lose alot of money. They would have to tread lightly because Delta will do whatever they want if you **** them off. You know this, you saw it at 9E. A TSA merger would destroy Compass and any advantage they have compared to other regionals ( cost, performance) will be lost.
Not to take anything away from the good job they do but if Compass was the preferred DCI carrier, wouldn't they be getting more airplanes/flying? True their performance is towards the top, but its such a small operation which helps them out in that respect. SkyWest is usually leading the pack with a much larger operation flying into more challenging airports. The only advantage Compass has is the E175, which Delta owns. Delta could decide to shift those airplanes around at any moment regardless of the contract. Compass and TSH are flawed on the inside, administration and support staff. The crews are a great bunch of people, but they have major issues on the support side. They pay peanuts for schedulers, dispatchers, and other support staff causing it to be a constant game of musical chairs. Compass for instance has pretty much turned over its entire SOC in the past 5 months, losing people to 9E, EV, OO, DL, and yes even AX.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
forgot to bid
Major
37
02-27-2020 08:58 PM
rballTy
Part 135
5
02-17-2020 02:21 PM
fastmulti
GoJet
129
07-08-2010 06:20 PM
skippy
GoJet
14
05-14-2009 11:12 AM
skippy
GoJet
4
05-11-2009 08:55 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices