Anybody comming to class here at 9E anytime soon... THINK AGAIN
09-11-2006, 01:35 PM
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Anybody comming to class here at 9E anytime soon... THINK AGAIN
You heard it here first....
To: All Flight Crewmembers
From: Clive Seal,
Vice President, Flight Operations
Date: September 11, 2006
Subject: Cancellation of Vacancy 06-08
The need for Vacancy Notice 06-08 was based on expected needs associated with the signing of a new Air Service Agreement with Northwest Airlines. Since we have been informed that the likelihood of receiving a new ASA has been delayed and will continue to be delayed until we have a new pilot contract, we can no longer afford to carry a high pilot surplus. Therefore, Vacancy Notice 06-08 has been cancelled.
As the result of this cancellation, the upgrade classes on October 3rd and October 24th will not be held. In addition, the new hire class dates of October 2nd and October 16th will also not be held.
The status of any future classes will be reviewed as the class dates approach.
To: All Flight Crewmembers
From: Clive Seal,
Vice President, Flight Operations
Date: September 11, 2006
Subject: Cancellation of Vacancy 06-08
The need for Vacancy Notice 06-08 was based on expected needs associated with the signing of a new Air Service Agreement with Northwest Airlines. Since we have been informed that the likelihood of receiving a new ASA has been delayed and will continue to be delayed until we have a new pilot contract, we can no longer afford to carry a high pilot surplus. Therefore, Vacancy Notice 06-08 has been cancelled.
As the result of this cancellation, the upgrade classes on October 3rd and October 24th will not be held. In addition, the new hire class dates of October 2nd and October 16th will also not be held.
The status of any future classes will be reviewed as the class dates approach.
09-11-2006, 03:30 PM
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What a bunch of snakes!!!
So much for that ERJ170 they were looking at 
A few weeks ago they were circulating some memo in the break room from the bean counters saying that the pilots' bargaining committee being "unreasonable" during negations is causing many woes for 9E.
It's funny that $21/hr is "overcompensated" for a first year FO, but nobody mentions Phil Trenary's $565k/year salary.
Oh well... the grass is greener over here, hop on over guys!
A few weeks ago they were circulating some memo in the break room from the bean counters saying that the pilots' bargaining committee being "unreasonable" during negations is causing many woes for 9E.
It's funny that $21/hr is "overcompensated" for a first year FO, but nobody mentions Phil Trenary's $565k/year salary.
Oh well... the grass is greener over here, hop on over guys!
09-11-2006, 06:11 PM
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Well I cant say I remember this happening last year.... I do remember NWA taking back those 15 birds from us.. however there were no NH classes cancelled no CA vacancys cancelled and no CA's displaced... Aside from the 15 a/c loss there was no real difference... This is the first time since I have been here that I have seen 4 NH classes cancelled between 2 this month and 2 next month as well as 2 CA vacancys cancelled 06-07 and 06-08.. I must say this sucks on a whole new level.....
09-11-2006, 06:16 PM
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On a side note although not 9E itself the statement made by the MEC chair is absolutely brilliant and pretty much applies to our situation on the 9E side.
AP
Mesaba Pushes for Pay Cuts
Friday September 8, 4:37 pm ET
By Joshua Freed, AP Business Writer
Mesaba Says It May Cease Flying if Workers Don't Accept Pay Cuts
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Mesaba Airlines is losing $1 million per week and will soon have to choose between imposing pay cuts or shutting down unless its unions agree to concessions, the airline's president said in a newsletter.
The bankrupt feeder for Northwest Airlines Corp. already has permission from a bankruptcy judge to impose new terms on pilots, flight attendants, and mechanics. But they're threatening to strike if that happens.
"A strike would be as fatal as an orderly shutdown," Mesaba President John Spanjers wrote to 3,300 Mesaba employees in a newsletter obtained by The Associated Press on Friday, after the story was reported by the Star Tribune.
Mesaba has lined up a $24 million debtor-in-possession loan, but it said it can't access that money until it has new labor contracts in place. It has been demanding new contracts that would cut its costs by 19.4 percent.
The newsletter includes bar charts showing Mesaba's progress toward cost savings. There's no bar indicating progress on labor -- just a zero.
"You can look at numbers and charts and graphs until the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is that there's a market rate ... for pilots, flight attendants and mechanics, and we're going to be in that ballpark," said Tom Wychor, a Mesaba captain and head of its pilots union. "If they can't pay market rates, then they probably don't belong in business."
He said the unions are offering cuts of over 14 percent, which should be close enough to make a deal. But there have been no talks in over a month with the pilots, and it's been longer with the other two unions.
Mesaba claimed the delay is costing it in other ways, too. Northwest has been moving to outsource ground handling at its smaller airports, and Mesaba said it was awarded a bid to do that work at 17 airports, for $10 million a year. But Northwest is now re-bidding that work because of the uncertainty of Mesaba's future, Spanjers wrote.
Mesaba also said that Delta Air Lines Inc. has asked for bids on flying up to 143 regional jets, including on routes currently flown by Comair, Chautauqua, and other regional carriers. Mesaba plans to bid for that flying, "but realistically, we're at a tremendous disadvantage without labor savings in place," Spanjers wrote.
Mesaba Aviation Inc. filed for bankruptcy protection about a month after Northwest last fall. It is a unit of MAIR Holdings Inc.
AP
Mesaba Pushes for Pay Cuts
Friday September 8, 4:37 pm ET
By Joshua Freed, AP Business Writer
Mesaba Says It May Cease Flying if Workers Don't Accept Pay Cuts
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Mesaba Airlines is losing $1 million per week and will soon have to choose between imposing pay cuts or shutting down unless its unions agree to concessions, the airline's president said in a newsletter.
The bankrupt feeder for Northwest Airlines Corp. already has permission from a bankruptcy judge to impose new terms on pilots, flight attendants, and mechanics. But they're threatening to strike if that happens.
"A strike would be as fatal as an orderly shutdown," Mesaba President John Spanjers wrote to 3,300 Mesaba employees in a newsletter obtained by The Associated Press on Friday, after the story was reported by the Star Tribune.
Mesaba has lined up a $24 million debtor-in-possession loan, but it said it can't access that money until it has new labor contracts in place. It has been demanding new contracts that would cut its costs by 19.4 percent.
The newsletter includes bar charts showing Mesaba's progress toward cost savings. There's no bar indicating progress on labor -- just a zero.
"You can look at numbers and charts and graphs until the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is that there's a market rate ... for pilots, flight attendants and mechanics, and we're going to be in that ballpark," said Tom Wychor, a Mesaba captain and head of its pilots union. "If they can't pay market rates, then they probably don't belong in business."
He said the unions are offering cuts of over 14 percent, which should be close enough to make a deal. But there have been no talks in over a month with the pilots, and it's been longer with the other two unions.
Mesaba claimed the delay is costing it in other ways, too. Northwest has been moving to outsource ground handling at its smaller airports, and Mesaba said it was awarded a bid to do that work at 17 airports, for $10 million a year. But Northwest is now re-bidding that work because of the uncertainty of Mesaba's future, Spanjers wrote.
Mesaba also said that Delta Air Lines Inc. has asked for bids on flying up to 143 regional jets, including on routes currently flown by Comair, Chautauqua, and other regional carriers. Mesaba plans to bid for that flying, "but realistically, we're at a tremendous disadvantage without labor savings in place," Spanjers wrote.
Mesaba Aviation Inc. filed for bankruptcy protection about a month after Northwest last fall. It is a unit of MAIR Holdings Inc.
09-11-2006, 08:19 PM
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And a side note to that, you watch specials on 9/11 today and you remember the horrific events of that day, and then you go to work and you get a $%$ing letter from your red neck leader saying we need to have a new contract and your union is going to cost you your job.
09-12-2006, 09:25 AM
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Welcome to paradise... and then everyone wonders why I dont like being a regional FO... In fact the only reason I put up with this bull $hit is hopes that mainlines will open up and I can move the Fuk on soon!
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