Wow Tough Day
 

Received a fedex from PDT saying "Thanks but no Thanks"

As well as a letter from Mesaba Stating:
Thank you for submitting your resume to Mesaba Airlines for consideration for the Pilot - First Officer position.

We are fortunate to have many qualified candidates apply to each of our positions. We have reviewed the qualifications of each candidate and after careful consideration, we have determined that the credentials of other candidates may better fit our needs at this time.

Please accept our best wishes and thank you for your interest in Mesaba Airlines.

Sincerely,
Human Resources
Mesaba Airlines

and a Letter from American Eagle Stating:

Thank you for submitting an application for a First Officer position with American Eagle Airlines.

Applicants are evaluated for overall competitiveness. While we appreciate your interest in American Eagle Airlines, we regret to inform you that we are unable to consider you further at this time. It is our policy not to discuss the specifics of this decision with our applicants.

Thank you again for your interest in American Eagle Airlines. You may reapply in 90 days if you so desire.

Sincerely,

Pilot Recruitment
American Eagle Airlines, Inc.


So.. My question is , should I sell hot dogs at the ball park or newspapers on the side of the road?

Currently have 805 / 125 M.E Turbine
4 year degree in Aviation Management

I know what is killing me is 2 failed multi checkrides ( one on the instrument portion ) and one CFI Initial . Just venting . Good luck guys!

Keep your head up. Something will all in place for you. Nearly all of the regionals are hiring right now, but the one i work at. Keep your eyes open and things will fall your way. Unless your a total D-bag but I doubt that.

That will do it. Thanks Colgan for it.

You just need more time in my opinion. I have 2 failures and 1 speeding ticket and got interviews at Eagle and Mesaba with 1800/600. Just my $.02

Tough day. If it makes you feel any better, at around 10,000 TT and 8500 ME I expect a similar letter this week. Hang in there... It's a journey.

Everything happens for a reason.Something better may be in the future. :)

Keep flying and try again when you get to 1000 Total Time.

Also give TSA a shot (srs), if you can pass initial here you should be golden for the future.

I would guess that with your relatively low time and 2 failed checkrides a red flag pops up for HR..... It is basically reading: Captain will have to babysit right seater......

You may be a good overall pilot and just had a couple of bad days, but unfortunately you're up against guys with more time and less bad days....

Like everyone said, get past that 1,000 number. Things will be much easier by then. Just keep flyin'!

Honestly if you aren't too old you may want to considder switching to the ATC side. You will make more money and have better QOL, plus the experience you already have will do nothing but benefit you. Like it or not, gov't jobs are where it's at right now, especially if you don't think austerity is coming our way. But, if you're just hell-bent on taking it up the rear for the next 30 years try Commutair, they'll take anyone!

Thanks everyone. Not trying to throw a pitty party just letting yall know what I am getting with a few failures and 800 / 125 / 4 year aviation degree. I appreciate the feedback. As they say, on to the next one!

Haven't really taken them into serious consideration. May try to throw in my hat and see what happens.

thanks!

You might want to try Great Lakes

It's because you went to Purdue. No one likes purdue pilots... :mad:

I didn't do the flight program at least! Walked to the beat of my own drum on that one

He's lying to you. What he meant to say was no one like Riddle pilots.;)

He's lying to you. What he meant to say was no one likes pilots. :D

The good thing is at least those companies responded so you know where you stand. As much as it hurts to get the dreaded rejection letter, now you can focus your efforts on other places and not have to sit around wondering if Eagle is going to call. Good luck to you.

That's the funniest thing Ive read today! Theyll probably train the newhires at TSA on the MRJ!

As so many others have stated - hang in there! Look at it like this, you now have some interview experience under your belt. You know what to expect and how to prepare. Turn what seems like a negative into a positive. After all, at least someone in HR actually took the time to review your credentials! Sure it sucks but sometimes you have to get a lot of "no's" before you get that one "yes." All a part of paying your dues. Keep plugging away and keep the faith. Good luck!

Get more hours and if nothing happens then, maybe add some ratings on to show you won't fail another checkride. It's a gamble and could be option 'Z'.

Yeah, but from SWA....slightly different bar you're jumping over, there.

But it still feels the same when you take it on the knees.

That sucks bro, I've gotten one of those in my search for a job and it hurts. That is interesting that as hurting for qualified canidates as airlines are, three of them turn you around out the door. Any other marks on your record besides the failures? I've heard of a few people getting hired with 2 failures earlier when mins were 1000TT, and the CFI initial is a very commonly failed.

If I read the OP correctly you have a total of three failed checkrides and only 800hrs, and weren't invited to any interviews. You just have to keep getting more hours and don't fail anymore checkrides. Instruct for another year and get an ATP on your own, if something else doesn't come along before then.

At this point the airlines are looking for someone they think will make it through their training program. The three failures stand out too much.

It's actually harder to get on there than at a regional currently. I've had an application in since 2009 (which is coincidentally the last time they accepted off the street applications, and will potentially be the last time they do so for a long time) and I just got the call to interview two weeks ago. If I were to go and get an offer then it'd probably be 2013 or later before I saw the Academy. There are people who've had offers for 2+ years still waiting on a class date. 1/3 of the work force was hired in the last 5 years, so the bubble just recently kind of burst.

Though, to address the OP, you just gotta fly more, man. There's a boom right now, but in the very recent past 800 hours wouldn't have even been enough to get a rejection letter, they'd just toss your resume out. It sucks but you have to be patient. Get another 200-700 hours and you'll stand a much better chance. There's also good flying beyond the regionals if you get a little more time.

2 failures, not 3 for the op

I don't see 2 failures being the deciding factor, 3 would would be a different story. I think you just had some bad luck. Keep applying and go to a recruiting event. From reading the boards it seems hiring isn't as fierce as it was a month or two ago, or so many have gotten hired there is no one is left to blog. For all the hiring going on these boards aren't as active as they were in 2008. I think the activity on these boards tell part of the looming "shortage" story.

Guys to clarify I do have three. Not proud of it but its reality. Failed a multi private, commercial multi ( instrument portion ) and CFI initial. I did have an interview with PDT and I felt all went well. They hired guys who had less then 350TT and 25 Multi ( many who I know personally).. The 1500 Hour / 200 Hour minimum with them is not at all the case.

I feel your pain, but just as many others have told you already, you need to keep flying and trying. If American Eagle will allow you to put in another app. 90 days from now, then do it. Don't let your failed rides take you down with them. I know someone who was recently hired by one of the larger regionals who had his own failures and still lacks a 4 year degree. If they can do it, you can do it. Keep trying and good luck.

I know, you said it before. I don't think 2 is hurting you.

FYI when I count your faliures my math says 3: multi private, commercial multi ( instrument portion ) and CFI initial.

1. private multi
2. commercial multi
3. CFI

agreed. I thought I made that clear in the OP. If not my error

Keep your head up! I did the Purdue A.M. program 12 years ago and am currently getting my MBA through Riddle. I'm still employed but looking for a better fit for my family.

I'm sorry to hear Mesaba turned you down. I handed in about 20 resumes there for fellow Boilermakers over the years and pretty sure most all made it in.

On the com. Multi, how did it go down? My friend did his com. Multi the other day, and he did not pass the ifr portion, but still passed the check ride. The dpe just gave com. Multi VFR rights only. Not exactly sure how that works though, or if it effects your record

Don't feel bad dude, i got walked out of the interview @ American Eagle for not completing the App correctly (had to re-sit type ride) and less than 6 months later was in ground school at a much better outfit.

Things will turn around..

Keep your chin up my friend. Everyone here is right, just keep plugging away. Here's a quote I've learned to live by.

"It's how you deal with failure which determines whether or not you achieve success"

Guys can't appreciate the kind words enough! As for my commercial multi , iirc, the examiner said that we were taking a commercial multi engine checkride with instrument add on which is what dictated the failure cometely. I was a 250 hour wonder pilot who admittedly became to complacent with the approach I had flow nearly 30-60 times. As luck would have it, the Feds added a step down fix in the latest revision which had taken place that week. Long story short , I neglected to brief it properly and descended below the MDA. I love telling my students that story . They brief every approach like it's never been flown!

For any of these companies, persistence pays off. Be it 90 days, 6 months or a year. Just reapply according to their policy. I heard that Eagle keeps excellent records of how many resumes/applications were sent.

Good luck!



“It’s not whether you get knocked down, it’s whether you get up.” Vince Lombardi

Sell beer and hot dogs at the ball park. They can make good money.

No joke.

Keep trying on flying. In the meantime keep working and don't pout.

Get additional tickets if you don't already have them -- your CFII, CFI-Multi, AGI - Advanced Ground Instructor, taildragger, floats, anything. And when you get to 1500, your ATP. It'll show employers a string of new passed exams and that you're serious and ambitious about your career. Good luck!