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Jetlinker 03-28-2012 02:09 PM

Wait...so you guys just found out your schedules for next month yesterday?. Where the f*ck is the MEC on this stuff? This kinda crap blows my mind, and would never fly on the ERJ side of the house. I'm not trying to stir the pot here guys, but stuff like this does not give the ERJ side a favorable view of the CRJ MEC. It's completely unacceptable for the company to be doing this, and even worse if the union bends over and takes this up the pooper.

BelowMins 03-28-2012 03:05 PM

^^^^^+1000

captain beefy 03-28-2012 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 1159424)
Wait...so you guys just found out your schedules for next month yesterday?. Where the f*ck is the MEC on this stuff? This kinda crap blows my mind, and would never fly on the ERJ side of the house. I'm not trying to stir the pot here guys, but stuff like this does not give the ERJ side a favorable view of the CRJ MEC. It's completely unacceptable for the company to be doing this, and even worse if the union bends over and takes this up the pooper.

Our MEC is out sending emails about how they are "working with the company" on X and Y.

Not trying to flame here at all and more just curious, but was it last summer you guys were so short on pilots they were taking people below minimum days off for the month involuntarily? I'm just curious as to what your union was able to do with that situation. Our union would have signed an MOU adjusting our min days off behind our back to make what the company was doing totally legal while they enjoy a 6hr min day credit.

JustAnotherPLT 03-28-2012 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 1159424)
Wait...so you guys just found out your schedules for next month yesterday?. Where the f*ck is the MEC on this stuff? This kinda crap blows my mind, and would never fly on the ERJ side of the house. I'm not trying to stir the pot here guys, but stuff like this does not give the ERJ side a favorable view of the CRJ MEC. It's completely unacceptable for the company to be doing this, and even worse if the union bends over and takes this up the pooper.

Our LEC is currently being recalled, this **** doesn't fly.

Jetlinker 03-28-2012 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by captain beefy (Post 1159461)
Our MEC is out sending emails about how they are "working with the company" on X and Y.

Not trying to flame here at all and more just curious, but was it last summer you guys were so short on pilots they were taking people below minimum days off for the month involuntarily? I'm just curious as to what your union was able to do with that situation. Our union would have signed an MOU adjusting our min days off behind our back to make what the company was doing totally legal while they enjoy a 6hr min day credit.

Honestly...I don't remember if it happened. Personally, I didn't experience that, although I could see it happening. Anybody who gets rolled into a day off below minimum days off gets paid 150-200% at a minimum credit of 3.75 hours or block if it's greater, and has their day off restored.

PBSG 03-28-2012 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 1159424)
Wait...so you guys just found out your schedules for next month yesterday?. Where the f*ck is the MEC on this stuff? This kinda crap blows my mind, and would never fly on the ERJ side of the house.

Exactly. These late schedules are a huge reason why PBS couldn't work with my life.

Meanwhile at XJT we get the bid packets for May next week, with the results around the 9th.

unit monster 03-28-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 1159424)
Wait...so you guys just found out your schedules for next month yesterday?. Where the f*ck is the MEC on this stuff? This kinda crap blows my mind, and would never fly on the ERJ side of the house. I'm not trying to stir the pot here guys, but stuff like this does not give the ERJ side a favorable view of the CRJ MEC. It's completely unacceptable for the company to be doing this, and even worse if the union bends over and takes this up the pooper.


I agree with you 100%, I'm completely *********g over this place. But, what would your MEC have done differently? The company will do what the company wants, hopefully we just see a hard line response from the Union. If the Union backs down (or already have), it would be nice to see 800+ grievances from all the ATL pilots affected.

BelowMins 03-28-2012 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by captain beefy (Post 1159461)
Our MEC is out sending emails about how they are "working with the company" on X and Y.

Not trying to flame here at all and more just curious, but was it last summer you guys were so short on pilots they were taking people below minimum days off for the month involuntarily? I'm just curious as to what your union was able to do with that situation. Our union would have signed an MOU adjusting our min days off behind our back to make what the company was doing totally legal while they enjoy a 6hr min day credit.

That's somewhat correct. If your day was not restored, which contractually it had to be, our MEC agreed to an MOU, which has since expired that gave you 10 hours of straight pay and an extra day of vacation on your next vacation. On top of the 150% or 200% for the flying you did on your day off. A lot of us hoped for an unrestored day because of this.

Our MEC has had its problems too, but I'd take ours over yours any day.

Av8rking 03-28-2012 10:54 PM

Whatever, let's talk all the sh!t we want, but there is no doubting the Unions productivity based on trip day per credit hour. I have vacation for April and still have 2 four days worth 27 hours each. That gives me roughly 90 hours pay for 8 days work! I know the bid delay hurt us all, but there is no denying what our MEC gave us compared to the company lines!

Av8rking 03-28-2012 11:25 PM

Does it not blow anyone's mind that the difference between the Companies Average 4 day is 21 hours and the unions average 4 day is 25 hours! I feel like I am taking crazy pills!


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