Originally Posted by slumav505 (Post 1015877)

2-3 years ago no one was going to Eagle, upgrade was 9-10 years. Now it's the place to be today. Again have some perspective. Will it be that way in a year or two, especially if they are divested? Things are moving at a trickle now without much hiring to speak of. If you are here you see how short staffed we are across the board. I really do expect to see another substantial upgrade as soon as the IMSL is in place. (So end of the summer). That, combined with the new duty rules coming into play in the next 12-24 months alone will result in an upgrade for roughly 150-200 of our guys almost immediately, not to mention the staffing increases required at mainline that will pull a few away. I consider myself I fairly plugged in person. The facts are we're short handed on every seat. We need more captains. So more upgrades will happen when they can afford to take FO's offline again. I stand by my 2-3 years for everyone who is here right near the bottom now barring bankruptcy, buy out or loss of a code share.

Just remember that Tsunami's start at the bottom first.

Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 1016122)

I really hope that your numbers are right. However, I think that you & I both learned a valuable lesson from being employed by RAH the past few years. The lesson is this: Don't pick en employer based on projected movement. No one has a crystal ball in this industry, even the executives. Pick an airline based on work rules & compensation. That way when you're stuck at the bottom and commuting to reserve, you don't feel like slashing your wrists with a dull plastic butter knife you borrowed from a Flight Attendant. RAH is a terrible place, and I wish I would've listened to some wiser and older friends. I made my decision in late 07 based on projected movement. I've been paying for that shortsightedness ever since.

Originally Posted by 121dj (Post 1016278)

How can you blame yourself for that. There are always some facts that you can base your decision on but mostly speculation. So if you were trying to get on w/a company right now with great work rules, pay etc., you get hired and 3 months in they take huge concessions to save their asses. Do you credit yourself with that? What gives?

Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 1016283)

Regionals don't really give up concessions, as there isn't much to give up.

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 1016290)

Well, agree there isn't much to give up, but.......

ACA (I took that one)
AWAC
MESABA
COMAIR
XJT (I took that one too)

.....took concessions. I may have left some out.

Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 1016290)

Well, agree there isn't much to give up, but.......

ACA (I took that one)
AWAC
MESABA
COMAIR
XJT (I took that one too)

.....took concessions. I may have left some out.

Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 1016437)

I'm pretty sure all those places (except ACA, not in business) have better concessionary contracts than the RAH non- concessionary CBA. RAH is a bad place to work. Stay away!!!

Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 1016437)

Yep, those slipped my mind. Luked pointed out that XJT still has a better concessionary contract than RAH. I'm pretty sure all those places (except ACA, not in business) have better concessionary contracts than the RAH non- concessionary CBA. RAH is a bad place to work. Stay away!!!

Originally Posted by 121dj (Post 1019923)

I'd sure love for someone up there to call me back about any upcoming training class dates. All I was ever told was "in August". You can't plan anything around that.