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Old 06-28-2007, 11:23 AM   #1  
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Default Airline Pilot Pay - Beyond the #s, NO QUESTIONS PLEASE!!!!!

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Default SkyWest Airlines

Payscales:http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...c/skywest.html

RJ Monthly guarantee: 75 hours
RJ Reserve guarantee: 75 hours

EMB120 line guarantee: 80 hours
EMB120 reserve guarantee: 75 hours

Per Diem Rate: $1.60

Compensation:
Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled historical block time
• Actual block time flown
• 2:1 duty pay (based on scheduled duty time up to 12 hours)
• Min daily guarantee of 3:45 (Except on CDOs)

PLUS: 1:1 pay for every minute schedule beyond 12 hrs of duty added to above.

100% cancelation pay
100% deadhead pay

Performance based bonuses after 2 years.

5% (2007) "BHO-Block Hour Override" pay for legs scheduled/flown on the CR7/CR9
BHO increases 1% every year until 2010

New Hires:
• Double Occupancy Hotel
• Uniforms Supplied
• Jepps Supplied
• 60 hrs/mnth Pay during training (if a current employee transitioning or upgrading then it's 70 hrs/mnth plus 24/7 per diem from the first day of training through your sim checkride.)
• Once aircraft training is complete, you begin receiving monthly gty. until the end of IOE
• No per diem (except on IOE flights)

Paid Holidays (Paid at 4:18 credit, after 90 days of service) Paid above and beyond guarantee!
• New Year’s Day
• Memorial Day
• Fourth of July
• Labor Day
• Thanksgiving Day
• Christmas Day
User Time Accrual Rate (User time can be used for sick days, personal days, etc.)
• After ninety days .0193 per hour
• After two years .027 per hour
• After five years .0385 per hour

Vacation Accrual Rate
• After six months .0385 per hour
• After five years .0462 per hour
• After ten years .0577 per hour
• After fifteen years .0615 per hour
• After sixteen years .0654 per hour
• After seventeen years .0692 per hour
• After eighteen years .0731 per hour
• After nineteen years .0769 per hour

Uniforms:$150/year uniform allowance

Benefits:

Various health plans - PPO,HMO,High Deductible (after 90 days)
Available plans depend on location and level of coverage ($20.50-$151.58/pay period)

Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP is a professional, confidential counseling service provided through Intermountain Health Care (IHC). The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area. Your consultations will be kept confidential.

Dental (after 90 days) $4.78-$13.41/pay period

Vision (available to new hires immediately)
($2.77-$7.38/pay period)

Flexible Spending Accounts

Disability
Short-term ($3.99-$11.95/pay period)
Long-term (paid by SkyWest)

Life Insurance (free after 90 days)
$20,000 coverage for employee, $5,000 for spouse, and $2,500 for dependents
$20,000 AD&D for employee

Legal and Financial Planing Services (after 90 days)
($8.62/pay period)

401k Matching
1-4 yrs service (2%)
5-9 yrs service (4%)
10+ yrs service (6%)

Employee Stock Purchase
The Employee Stock Purchase Plan allows you to purchase SkyWest, Inc. common stock through a payroll deduction at a discounted price. Choose the amount of after-tax dollars deducted from each paycheck. These dollars accumulate over a six-month period and are then used to purchase SkyWest stock at a 15 percent discount from the market price, based on a six-month look back.

Education Savings (available after 90 days)
SkyWest offers a program to assist you in saving for educational costs for you, your children or grandchildren. This plan is a flexible, tax-advantaged 529 college savings plan managed by Alliance Capital. This plan allows you to save through payroll deductions on an after-tax basis for college expenses.

Other Stuff:

No involuntary junior manning

Open time can be picked up at JM pay (150%) as long as the trip starts in the next 10 days. Crew support has the option to deny your request to pick up the open time, but they have to assign it to a reserve right away. If you pick up open time outside of the 10 day window it is straight pay.

Schedules are constructed using a preferential bidding system (PBS). Some like it, some don't. The trick is learning how to use it properly. I screwed up for January and now I only have 11 days off. Boo. Personally, I like it better than the hard lines because it's easier to get a couple specific days off without having to limit your options severely. PBS will build a schedule with no more than 20 duty days in a month, i.e. (10-11 days guaranteed off depending on whether it's a 30 or 31 day bid period).

Automated trip trades and picking up of dropped trips of other crew members and open time via company web site.

Excellent company web site. I can't even begin to tell you how much better I like it compared to SABRE (at American Eagle). Very easy to use. And we can keep an e-mail longer than one day! haha (Eagle guys know what I'm talking about)

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Old 06-28-2007, 11:25 AM   #3  
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Default Trans States Airlines

Payscales:
on airlinepilot central.

Compensation:
Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled historical block time
• Actual block time flown
• Reserves have a four hour guarantee on days worked
50% deadhead pay
no cancellation pay.

guaranteed: 70 hours on reserve,
74 as a line holder.
Plus you are guaranteed to get paid 95% of you bid award even if you don't fly it do to cancellations.

New Hires:
• 60 hours per month paid
• Used to NOT pay for a hotel, but I heard that may have just changed.
Paid Holidays
• Don't think so.

Vacation Accrual Rate
• No vacation until after one year. Then you get one week of vacation.

Uniforms:you pay all of it yourself, but you can have it paid off 20 bucks per month. Plus you get a 20 dollar per month "dry cleaning bonus" so it offsets it.

Benefits:
Various health plans -2 choices of health plans. both kind of suck.

401k Matching
1 percent matching after one year.

Employee Stock Purchase
We don't have stock. Privately owned. So its wonderful having no shareholders to answer too...

Education Savings
Yeah right...

Other Stuff:
There is Junioring, paid at 150%t

No Pref Bid.
No CASS

Upgrade mins just lowered to 3000total, 1600 turbine, 1200 multi. But for every hour you fly in the 145, you are credited two hours towards total time up to 800 hours. So if you come in with low time, upgrade mins are really 2200 total, 1600 turbing, and 1200 multi.

People are bailing every day. The slogan of the company seems to be "We train em so every other regional can hire em..."

90 percent of the captains I have flown with have told me to get the hell out of TSA while I still haven't accrued much seniority.

Hope this helps, I know I don't have a ton of details about the benefits. If you want more let me know.

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Old 06-28-2007, 11:25 AM   #4  
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Default Republic Airways

Payscales:
http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli.../republic.html
Rates Increase by 1.99% each October - Contract ammendable in Oct. 2007

Monthly guarantee: 75 hours

Per Diem Rate: $1.60

Compensation:
Block or Better per leg

75% deadhead pay
Pay Protection for certain situations

New Hires: • Double Occupancy Hotel
• Jepps Supplied
• Pay during training: $1600 1st month, min. guarantee thereafter
• No per diem (except on IOE flights)
• Considered "Probationary" for one year from date of hire. Can still file grievances, vote, etc. but are not able to grieve disciplinary actions.

Paid Holidays (Paid at 4:00 credit ABOVE guarantee)
• New Year’s Day
• Easter
• Memorial Day
• Fourth of July
• Labor Day
• Thanksgiving Day
• Christmas Day

Paid Days Off Accrual (Time can be used for sick days, personal days, vacation etc.)
• Year 1: 4.0 hours a month
• Year 2: 4.33 hours a month
• Year 3: 4.67 hours a month
• Year 4: 5.0 hours a month
• Year 5: 5.33 hours a month
• Year 6: 5.67 hours a month
• Year 7: 6.0 hours a month
• Year 8: 7.0 hours a month
• Year 9: 7.33 hours a month
• Year 10: 7.67 hours a month
Pilots can keep up to 1.5 years worth of PDO's to be used for personal/vacation/sick calls. After that they can be placed in pilots sick bank (can only be used for sick calls) or cashed out. Pilots are charged 4.0 hours per day taken, 18 hours for one week of vacation.

Uniforms:
$200/year uniform allowance

Benefits:

Health plan - Supplied by Great West Medical after 30 days. Various plans for single, married, family. Single pilot plan is $90 a month ($45 per pay period). Flexible Spending account available with a $5,000 maximum contribution.


Dental (after 30 days) Free

Vision (after 30 days) Free

Disability
Short-term ($3.25/pay period)


Life Insurance (free immediately)
Pays 2 times employees base pay rounded up to the nearest $1,000. May not be less than $10,000. $5,000 for death of spouse, $2,500 for death of dependent.

401k Matching
1-6 yrs service (2.5%)
6-13 yrs service (4%)
13+ yrs service (6%)

Pilots must work one year AND 900 hours before company will match. 401k plan is vested 100% immediately for all pilot contributions. Must complete 3 years of service with the company before company match is 100% vested.


Other Stuff:
No junior manning

Commuter Clause - Pilots must list on 2 flights with open seats within 48 hours of the flight. May be used 2 times every 6 months.

Temporary override for any flying conducted outside of monthly scheduled activity. $30 per hour for Captains, $15 per hour for FO's. Pilots called for additional flying are also subject to 4.0 hours of additional pay (negotiable with crew scheduling) and an additional day off that month.

Schedules are constructed using a preferential bidding system (PBS). 12 days off a month for lineholders, 11 for reserve pilots.

Trip trades and open time must be approved via Manager of Crew Scheduling.

FO's are seat locked on aircraft hired into. May upgrade to any airframe when seniority can hold it and possess 2500TT and 500 ME. No street captains allowed unless no qualified pilots bidding for seat on seniority list. Captains are seat locked for a period of 2 years on airframe. Captains may not switch to a lower paying airframe (i.e. a 170 captain cannot become a 145 captain).

Republic Airways Holdings owns Chautauqua Airlines, Shuttle America, and Republic Airways. All pilots are on one seniority list with one contract.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:27 AM   #5  
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Default Piedmont Airlines

Reserve guarantee: 72 hours

Per Diem Rate: $1.40

Compensation:Paid the greater of:
Scheduled block time (OAG)
Actual block time flown
Min daily guarantee of 4:00 (average over course of trip)

100% cancelation pay
50% deadhead pay

New Hires:Double Occupancy Hotel
Uniforms Payroll deducted
Jepps and binders supplied
Pay during training at reserve garuntee with 1/2 per diem (12 hours a day)

Vacation:Vacation days are used to wipe out a day of work on a scheaduled line, so if bid correctly 5 days of vacation can give you 2 weeks off.

Vacation Accrual Rateyear 1: 5 days
year 2-5(?): 10
Not sure how it works out, but I believe max is 20 vacation days

Uniforms:
No uniform allowance

Don't rember much, but I was paying about $30 a month for what seemed to end up being pretty good dental and health insurance. Even covered chiropractor at %80. There is a 401k with match that increases with years of serivce.

Other Stuff:
Junior manning:
Max 3 junior mans per year. Junior man days are paid at normal credit + 4 hours.

Schedules are bid as hard lines. There aren't any big bases, so they just drop off a pile of the available lines in each crew room, you decide which you want, fax it back in, and 1 week later the awards are published and you find out out someone junior to you inexplicably got what you bid for.

Trades are done via the crew room swap board and word of mouth. You both fax the request to scheduling and they then pretend they never got it.

Travel benefits on US airways are free. You only pay international taxes. Your spouse and children travel free, and if you are unmarried you may designate a "registered guest" who has those beneifts (however, the value of their travel [@ ID90 rate{10% of full Y fare}] will be added to your paycheck as "imputed income" and taxed along withyour wages). Parents travel cheap (don't rember the rate), and you get 8 one way guest passea year. The guest pass cost is based on zone travel and may cover multiple segments cost range from $25(intrazone)-$100(transatlantic). You have free access to the hub which gives load info and allows you to list and use guest passes and the 1-800 # which actauly gives loads and IS NOT voice activated. Thank god, and hint hint UAL.

Thats all I remember infomration is subject to change and may also be flat out wrong. Additions encouraged and welcomed.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:28 AM   #6  
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Default Great Lakes Airlines

Payscales:http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...c/skywest.html

Turboprop Monthly guarantee: 75 hours
Turboprop Reserve guarantee: 75 hours

Per Diem Rate: $1.20

Compensation:
Paid historical block

No cancelation pay
50% over-guarantee deadhead pay

New Hires:
* Double Occupancy Hotel
* Buy your own uniforms
* No Jepps for FO's, company buys Jepps, but not binders, for captains.
* No pay during training
* Once aircraft training is complete, you begin receiving monthly gty. until the end of IOE
* No per diem (except on IOE flights) during initial training.

Paid Holidays (Paid at 3:45 credit)
* New Year’s Day
* Memorial Day
* Fourth of July
* Labor Day
* Thanksgiving Day
* Christmas Day

Uniforms:Company pays a small amount (not sure how much) after 2 years online.

Benefits:
Health care - PPO (after 90 days)

Life Insurance available (minimal cost)

401k Matching
Matches 4% if you contribute 10% of your paycheck.

Other Stuff:

Reserves cannot pick up open time, except on "off" days
Initial captain upgrade is always to the Beech
No reserve lines
Min days off: 10/month
Junior man always pays 3:45 over guarantee
CASS participant
Part 135 flight/duty time limitations for Beech 1900 pilots
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Default ExpressJet Airlines

Current Payscales:http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...xpressjet.html

Contract through 11/30/2010Rates increase by 3% per year each 12/1/xx

Future planned Upgrades:
December: 64
January: 64
February: 32

Monthly guarantee: 75 hours
Reserve guarantee: 75 hours
Charter Guarantee: 90 hours

Charter pays: applicable pay plus $18/hour override.
Minimum 5.5 hours per day at override rate.

Per Diem Rate: $1.65
(increases by $0.05 yearly each 12/1)

SCHEDULING:Regular lines: Min 12 days off per bid period
Reserve: Min 11 days off per 30 day bid period
Min 12 days off per 31 day bid period
Charter: Min 14 days off per bid period

Compensation:Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled block time
• Actual block time flown by segment
• Min daily guarantee of 3:00

100% cancelation pay
100% deadhead pay

New Hires:• Double Occupancy Hotel
• Uniforms are Payroll Deduct
• Jepps Supplied
• Per Diem during training $1500 (+/-)
• Once PC is complete, you begin receiving MMG (minimum monthly guarantee)
• Positive space travel provided to and from training and Home of record

Other pay Credits
• Drug Alcohol testing (30 minutes pay)
• CBT / Home study (1 hour pay for 2 hour study)
• Profit Sharing
• On-time bonuses from CAL

Vacation Accrual Rate
• Year 1: 7 days (7/12 days per month)
• Year 2-6: 14 days (14/12 days per month)
• Year 7-10: 21 days (21/12 days per month)
• Year 11+: 28 days (28/12 days per month)
Pay is 3.75 hours per day.

Uniforms:
$150/year uniform allowance

Benefits:
Various health plans – (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment)
Available plans depend on location and level of coverage ($20 and up depending on # covered and deductible)

Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP is a professional, confidential counseling service. The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area. Your consultations will be kept confidential.

Dental (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment) Cost…
Vision $5-15/mo
Flexible Spending Accounts

Disability
Short-term
Long-term

Life Insurance
Legal and Financial Planing Services

401k Matching
1-5 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%

Other Stuff:
Junior Manning is at 150% of the greater of:
- 3.75 Hours per duty period
-Trip pay as calculated

RED FLAGGED Open time can be picked up by lineholders at JM pay (150%).

Bidding can be done via online system. Bid via default (line number order), or assign values to re-order the lines for yourself. You can pick how you want them ordered based on line value, types of trips (1day / 2day), days off, etc. etc.

Automated trip trades, trip advertisements, and picking up of dropped trips of other crew members and open time via crew web site. Some websites will be changing as we become more independent and use less of CAL’s infrastructure.

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Payscales:http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...wisconsin.html

RJ rates increase by 1.5% every October

In addition, CA's get a 3% raise over industry average in 2008, and a 4% raise over industry average in 2010. Industry average is computed as the largest 6 suppliers of 50 seat ASM's. FO's after first year receive 60% of CA compensation (so pay goes up basically based upon CA rates)

CRJ 200 Monthly guarantee: 75 hours
CRJ 200 Reserve guarantee: 75 hours

Days off: 12 line holders AND reserves

Long Call - beeperless, 2 day call out, not available anywhere else.

Per Diem Rate: $1.50, increased to $1.60 in 2008.

Compensation:Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled historical block time (leg by leg basis)
• Actual block time flown (leg by leg basis)
• 2:1 duty pay (based on actual AND scheduled duty time)
• 4:1 trip rig based upon TAFB
• Min lineholder daily guarantee of 3:00 (CDO's 5:00)
• Min reserve daily guarantee 4:10
• Min Long Call daily guarantee 4:30

100% cancellation pay (for any reason)
100% deadhead pay

New Hires:
• Single Occupancy Hotel
• Uniforms Deducted from pay
• Jepps AND binders Supplied
• Full pay during training (min guarantee @ first year pay x monthly guarantee) Full pay while waiting for OE, Per diem on OE

Paid Holidays
No paid holidays for pilots.

Sick Time Accrual Rate
• From day 1, 3.5 hours per month, or 0.047 hours per hour (based upon monthly guarantee)

Vacation Accrual Rate
• First year of service - .58 (.58 x 12 months = 7 days)
• More than 1 year of service - 1.16 (1.16 x 12 months = 14 days)
• More than 5 years - 1.75 (1.75 x 12 months = 21 days)
• More than 10 years of service - 2.33 (2.33 x 12 months = 28 days)
• More than 19 years of service -
2.92 (2.92 x 12 months = 35 days)

Primary vacation has trip touching, allowing 7 days of vacation to be turned into 18+ days off. This is because AWAC doesn't have PBS (yet, being forced down throats to allow them to be "more competitive").

Uniforms:$260/year uniform allowance
$50/year headset allowance (to be used @ $300)

Benefits:Available after 2 weeks

Various health plans - PPO, HMO, Comprehensive
Costs are between $37 - $160 per paycheck ($75 - $260/month) Low end is for the HMO, high end is the Comprehensive plan with family coverage. Note: These rates were just increased upwards of 75% 2 months ago.

Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP is a professional, confidential counseling service provided through Intermountain Health Care (IHC). The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area. Your consultations will be kept confidential.

Dental
$~3-$4/pay period, two plans

Flexible Spending Accounts

Disability
Short-term ~ $2.5 bi-weekly
Long-term ~$10 monthly

Life Insurance (free immediately)
$50,000 coverage for employee
Additional coverages can be bought for spouse and dependents, as well as ADD insurance

401k Matching
Now thru 2008: 100% @ 4% of wages, additional 3% regardless of pilot contributions, for a total of 7%
After 2008: 100% @ 5%, additional 3% regardless of pilot contributions, for a total of 8%.

401k starts immediately, funds are matched after 1 year, fully vested after 6 years on property

Employee Stock Purchase
AWAC is privately held.

Education Savings (available after 90 days)
Nothing you can't do by yourself (like Skywest's plan).

Other Stuff:
No involuntary junior manning (everyone says that)

Open time can be picked up at premium pay (150%) as long as it's picked up within 4 days of the next bid period (basically 4 days prior to the beginning of the month).

Schedules are constructed using line bidding. PBS sucks, it awards the top percentage of senior people the best trips and everyone else suffers. It also kills your vacation trip touching, which essentially cuts your vacation time in half.
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TSA just lowered upgrade minimums(another thread on that). We are also CASS participants.

During training there's an $800 living stipend (pittance). $200 in the second and fourth week of groundschool, the remaining at the end of IOE.
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SkyWest's training pay is a 60 hour guarantee. Holiday pay is also paid above guarantee.
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