Originally Posted by jheath (Post 1014132)

Word directly from PP, the rest of the training dept, and everyone at payroll I've spoke to at both Colgan and Pinnacle is that the per diem clock starts rolling as soon as you're assigned a base and you leave Memphis. For my class, that meant round the clock per diem after the first two weeks of indoc, for the entirety of systems and sims. The kicker here is we've yet to be paid that amount (a shade over $1500 dollars). Word from the training department as of 5 days ago was that they had a couple hundred people to catch up on, and my class was towards the bottom of the list, so be patient and it IS coming.

This is what I've deduced from talking to several people in both the company and the union. Originally, the per diem situation worked exactly as you described (from the start of OE). For whatever reason, and I'm certainly not complaining, someone at the top decided to start paying new hires per diem sooner. This decision was made sometime around mid to late May. As a result, there were several months of classes that were owed back per diem. It took a long time to get the ball rolling and then to go back and calculate the hourly for these classes. As a result, those of us most recently hired are still waiting. I've spoken to someone from the class two before mine who was recently paid per diem for the entirety of training after leaving Memphis so this theory checks. I think the disconnect is that after this decision was made in May, no one told the guys on the MEC which is why you all are going by the previous information. Thanks for all your help though, if you're who I was conversing with via email.

Originally Posted by Blueskies21 (Post 1014520)

If you came PRIOR to the integrated seniority list, which unless you came in the last week you did, then you WILL get per diem 24/7 and hotel until you get moving days. It's in Letter of Agreement 2 section D of the new contract.. here's the language
"Pinnacle pilots who are awarded a vacancy or who are displaced shall receive moving benefits, including continuous per diem and hotel buy-out, under the terms of the prior CBA until the first Notice and Award following the implementation of the Integrated Seniority List "
Seems to me like that's pretty cut and dried. Don't let the compnay tell you what you are and aren't entitled to, they will ALWAYS make it work in their favor. Now if you WERE one of the guys who came last week then you are still entitled to moving days but the benefit is much reduced. And if you tell them that you're still entitled to it and they won't give it to you, call the contract duty officer, that's what they're there for.

Originally Posted by magnus0322 (Post 1014933)

Is this also applicable to Mesaba pilots? I thought we were all under one contract, should we be getting per diem? I find no reason in the current contract why a new hire FO should not be receiving per diem for training in MSP when we are going to be based in LGA and have known this since day 1 of training other than the company trying to save some cash

Originally Posted by mukalel (Post 1015082)

has anyone got any idea as to how many new hired have mesaba placed in the saab pool for LGA?? They have yet to schedule any classes...almost feels like an indefinite wait

Originally Posted by mukalel (Post 1015082)

has anyone got any idea as to how many new hired have mesaba placed in the saab pool for LGA?? They have yet to schedule any classes...almost feels like an indefinite wait

Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL (Post 1015107)

Don't worry about it, enjoy your last summer off.

Originally Posted by Blueskies21 (Post 1014520)

If you came PRIOR to the integrated seniority list, which unless you came in the last week you did, then you WILL get per diem 24/7 and hotel until you get moving days. It's in Letter of Agreement 2 section D of the new contract.. here's the language
"Pinnacle pilots who are awarded a vacancy or who are displaced shall receive moving benefits, including continuous per diem and hotel buy-out, under the terms of the prior CBA until the first Notice and Award following the implementation of the Integrated Seniority List "
Seems to me like that's pretty cut and dried. Don't let the compnay tell you what you are and aren't entitled to, they will ALWAYS make it work in their favor. Now if you WERE one of the guys who came last week then you are still entitled to moving days but the benefit is much reduced. And if you tell them that you're still entitled to it and they won't give it to you, call the contract duty officer, that's what they're there for.

Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 1015093)

Mukalel, you in the pool for next class? It definitely feels like an indefinite wait. I would hope sometime in the middle of July, but who knows.