My lord, how many incorrectly placed capitalized letters can you have in one paragraph?

You did go to college correct?

If you wished everyone the best you'd shut the hell up and quit with your never ending bashing of turbine prop flyers. You are a prime reason the bar has been lowered. You and your silly shiny jet syndrome that you couldn't deal with while you were at Colgan. It is obvious to many of us here that you lacked the maturity there to suck it up, upgrade to the left seat (gasp!) and get your PIC turbine time. Nope, you HAD to fly a jet. You make me sick.

 

I used to appreciate most of SAAB's replies, but since you made the HUGE upgrade to Expressjet you've been riding this unbelieveable high horse!!

Let's look at the facts: you were sittin on an ungrade at Colgan, unless you were one that ruffled feathers and was getting bypassed, where you would have been making $45K plus a year while building turbine PIC time. You decided Expressjet was where it's at, big things are happening. Well you could be an optimist or a pessimist on that one they both have their arguments but we won't go there with this one.

What you really did was take a $22K pay cut, along with over the next 4-5 years, that being how long it's gonna take you to upgrade will be losing $10K over that span. By the time you upgrade you would have been in a great position to skip Expressjet and go flow for a real airline.

If you felt it was the right thing to do then by all means, i don't question your decision, i have a lot of friends that have gone there in the last 8 months and its seems like a great place to be. Lot's of variables factor into that kind of a decision.

I think i've made my point and now i'm gonna sit back and wait for someone to jump on this one....

 

I did go to college I, I went to Rutgers College which is a great school. I double majored in African American History, & US History as well as a minored in Sociology. All of you guys make good points, I dont deny Colgan is the quicker way to achieve the 1,000PIC Turbine goal, however upgrade for me is still around 1 1/2 to 2 years based on the number of FO's ahead of me and the rate at which Colgan is currently upgrading. Some of you guys seem to miss the point that the reason Colgan in the past has upgraded so quickly is becuase they doubled their fleet of SAABS, are they getting more? I believe soo but not much more. Upgrades have been slowing a good deal. CA's make around 40ish, they do not make perdiem, I undertsand its more than I will be making at XJT (initially), however there are quite a few CA's that have been at Colgan for 3-5 years and its nearly impossible for them to make 55-60k if they do they are probably TDYing all over the place and working on their days off. You guys say I am bashing Turbo-prop guys I havent said a thing about Skywest or Peidomont becuase they are great Companies, Colgan is an ok company, and how you people can argue with me on that is crazy. The people at Colgan which I say over and over agian are awesome, the pilots are probably the greatest bunch of guys Ill ever get to fly with, but that does not change the fact that the airline itself is guilty of some shady operations, has anybody else (after the 1900 went down in HYA) had the experience of the superb MX guys once again reverseing the trims after a heavy check? At Colgan it has happened AGIAN but the pilots caught it this time. Colgan is notorious for that and if they were'nt they would not be on a "no Fly" list for such companies ay NETJETS and Citation shares (When they have to commute they have to take other airlines and COLGAN is on the list that the company can not make them travel on because they are "dangerous") Just a fact a very embarresing one but a fact none the less. To all you guys at Colgan I wish YOU the best I really do you guys take it so personally I am not bashing the pilots group just the company. (and I really am not "bashing" them just shedding some light on my experiences there. And Expressjet according to you may not be a "real airline" well if you never get picked up at a major youll be 40 making 50k a year on a SAAB and if I never get picked up at least I will be making enough to live on, oh and I won't have to tell people that the airplane I fly has Propellers on it hahaha j/k

 

"Colgan is notorious for that and if they were'nt they would not be on a "no Fly" list for such companies ay NETJETS and Citation shares (When they have to commute they have to take other airlines and COLGAN is on the list that the company can not make them travel on because they are "dangerous"

What on earth are you talking about? I fly for Colgan, and I carry Netjets pilots all the time. And no, you're not insulting Colgan pilots directly, because you keep saying we're cool guys, but you keep nattering on about how sloppy the company is and how bad mx is, and I feel the implication is that us pilots must be morons for not realizing what danger we're in and leaving like you. And you keep harping on the trim accident. I used to work for a different regional (a good one by your definition, we had about 100 jets, and they were really, really, shiny) and mx there actually reverse rigged the AILERONS. Not the aileron trim, the ailerons themselves. That one nearly turned into a crash too. Stupid mx, pilot, dispatch, and scheduling errors happen at every single airline in the world.
You keep bringing up the things Colgan has done wrong as if it's the only airline with people who make mistakes, when in fact it's just the only airline whose mistakes you are familiar with. It seems like you're making yourself mad by being on this stupid board all the time, and you're certainly getting on a lot of other people's nerves, maybe it's time for you to find a new hobby. Have you considered taking up drinking?

 

I had a regular NetJet fellow who jumpseated with us and we were talking about the mx at Colgan and he said, and I qoute, "Yeah Colgan an a few others are airlines that we do not have to travel on, due to their poor mx, and a few other things" I did not say they were not allowed, they do not have to if that was the only way for them to commute, next time you see a NETJET guy, ask him he will tell you and why do you sound surprised? you work at Colgan you know what goes on there, you know a captain by the name of Lou C? I bet you do , why don't you ask him about the company and how the FAA almost took his ticket thanks to Colgan, they really stood behind him ha?

 

I know Lou C. Ask him why the FAA almost took his ticket. Not because of Colgan. Because the previous crew...
and Colgan HAD to ...
NEVER mind. SAAB, I hope you are happy at XJT. I am sure there are happier people at Colgan now.

 

That shut you up pretty quicly ha?

 

What are you talking about? The point of my post was that it seems useless in trying to argue with you. You seem like a very pompous person.
I was saying I know him, and the story he gave me had NOTHING to do with Colgan the company. The previous crew didn't write it up (and actually called over the ops frequency to have MX come out and look at it!), he knew about it, but got distracted because of a release issue, and took off. The rest is history.
He called me to ask for advise, I said to bring a lawyer. He didn't, because he was told the FAA was to have a "friendly" meeting (there's an oxymoron). The FAA didn't almost take his ticket because of Colgan, they almost took it because of himself, and the previous knuckle heads. Colgan HAD to side with the FAA. RULES/REGS. were broken!
For the future if/when you upgrade, if the crew that you are swapping with tells you something is wrong with an AC, tell them to put it in the book!!! No matter how it delays, CXs the flight. CYA!!!( that stand for Cover Your...)

 

No, it didn't shut me up at all, I just have other things to do with my life than bicker with some looser on an internet message board. Speaking of that, I will not dignify any of your future "zingers" with a response since your rhetoric is pompous, one sided, and insulting to me and all the other people like me who work hard to make this airline a good one. I don't quite understand what kind of pathetic satisfaction you're getting from slandering Colgan Air all over this website, but please, it's getting obnoxious and I'm afraid someone who doesn't know any better might believe that your myopic version of reality is a cogent one. Enjoy ExpressJet, I hear it's a pretty good place to work too.

 

The funny thing is EXJet people read this site too - and they may not like the attitude either! Ever heard of new hires washing out before you ever start systems? Good Luck!!