Oh I have read the news. Have fun when you are furloughed or get sold out to new airlines if you should fall on that side of the stick. The truth is with all the hiring in the next 3-8 years you won't need that silly agreement to write your own ticket. Someone did the math and a new hire today I think would take 8-10 years to get called. Are you really going to wait that long? No, 3-5 years you can apply any any major vs waiting around for that shenanigans. Be carful, Eagle today isn't going to be Eagle tomorrow. LOOK AT COMPASS. AA is going to bid out your routes to the lowest bidder and the real growth will be at the regional that gains the AMR contract. I'm not trying to be negative or bash Eagle, it's just the reality of the economics.

 

Don't work there, but I think it's great news for them... and if our union leaders ever get their head out of their ***, they'd see we just got saddled with every eagle pilot there is... time to break bread, and make our own deals before AMR gets to whipsawing multiple feed providers against us instead of just the one, plus a few CHQ's for irritation.

you have a short memory. Many Compass guys went to NW, and IIRC some still retain the right post sale. If I have read the Eagle stuff right, they retain the right post sale/spin-off as well. There was a decade of slow to no hiring... we're just one big terrorist strike away from another massive slowdown. Yep, if things go great you can get on in a few years anywhere if you are lucky. The Eagle guys can do the same thing, but htey have the added guarantee of preferential hiring... no application package, no interview, no medical screening, no employment history background checks, no driving history checks, no credit checks... just a class date and show up. It's a definte plus even if you don't think so.

 

I'm glad you got it all figured out. And it will work well for some and not so great for others.

 

Ok you must have a really short memory because AMR has been saying they are going to divest/spin off Eagle for over 10 years, and it hasnt happened yet. Does that mean it wont? of course not, but even if they do the Eagle pilots are protected. Those planes that go to other airlines will also take the Eagle pilots to fly them. They will stay with the planes for 5 years, and then return to Eagle. The grievance agreement is pretty rock solid and I think the MEC did a great job with it.

You can also look at the so called "math" that someone did earlier about how long it would take to get called up to AA, and you would be foolish to consider that. The verbiage says that a MINIMUM of 50% of the preferential hiring group/class, and then a MINIMUM of 35% of the rest of the seniority list in order. Also there is only a 10-15% acceptance rate for the recalls at American, so it very well could move faster than you think. There is a very good chance that they will pull from Eagle as it is cheaper to put them right into training rather than travel, sim, and medical test costs for those off the street. It will still take several years, but NO ONE knows what will happen and anyone who says they do has the wool pulled so far over their eyes they will suffocate on it.

 

This is not true. With this new "settlement", the pilots do not follow the airplanes. Instead, AMR will attempt to secure preferential hiring from the airline taking the planes. That's right, start back at year 1 with zero seniority at another regional.

What you quoted is what WOULD have been guaranteed IF Eagle had won the grievance in question regarding transferring aircraft away from Eagle. A win seemed far from certain, so they settled for this new deal...

 

Mason, you should be the one reading your post today. Tell me what airline you now would choose?