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SATCFI 08-11-2011 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1037221)
4 and 7....let's get those numbers straight :p

4/16/07 not the best at math but as of jul 30 this was the most JR CA. which would be just a little shy of 4yr and 4 months.:D

RJ Pilot 08-11-2011 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by SATCFI (Post 1037208)
The atrs will be starting to leave (which was going to happen divestiture or not) next year but that is still not a big deal.

Try saying that to the SJU folk.:rolleyes:

buddies8 08-11-2011 09:30 AM

SATCFI; was riding with two AA crews yesterday trying to get home. Both said the same thing i have been hearing, AA has to start hiring now, and they are not going to give up their scope. They'll strike first.

Please not another 5 minute strike in ther middle of the night. AMR will go right straight to a BK court and settle all.

buddies8 08-11-2011 09:35 AM

SATCFI; was riding with two AA crews yesterday trying to get home. Both said the same thing i have been hearing, AA has to start hiring now, and they are not going to give up their scope. They'll strike first.

Please not another 5 minute strike in ther middle of the night. AMR will go right straight to a BK court and settle all.
AMR may have cash on hand but their debt is 3-4 times more than the cash they have in addition they have pawned everything, slots, aircraft and any buildings they had owned. The first 200 new aircraft on order are all leases, nothing owned. APA has only one thing in there favor, AMR mgt greed but that could also work against APA.

RJ Pilot 08-11-2011 09:57 AM

If AMR declares BK, there goes the 9yrs ASA....

buddies8 08-11-2011 10:46 AM

and your point is what, scare ae pilots? it would be more in line with AA furloughs another 1000 pilots and increases its codeshare with others and become a truly virtual airline. Paint American on the cheapest charter operator and fly AA. APA is not on a solid foundation, it is the illusion that all are looking at. But we will not know until the TA comes out at AA and is voted on.

seattlepilot 08-11-2011 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1037274)
If AMR declares BK, there goes the 9yrs ASA....

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This guy gets it ..

buddies8 08-11-2011 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by seattlepilot (Post 1037371)
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This guy gets it ..

you think, ask the delta, usair and ual feeders. they grew. guess you dont get it or are hoping to get a mainline job while stepping on others.

ERJF15 08-11-2011 03:27 PM

If AMR BK's, all bets are off. No flows, contarcts, deals, scope, or what ever. I don't think they will though.

stbloc 08-11-2011 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1037444)
If AMR BK's, all bets are off. No flows, contarcts, deals, scope, or what ever. I don't think they will though.

Exactly!!! People don't understand AMR true financial state. Has anyone looked and their balance sheet? If AMR was in good shape they wouldn't have spun off Eagle. Now they can go into BK and has an easier exit strategy with Ealge being a lessor burden on them. I hope I'm wrong for the sake off the industry but these events are all to curious to not speculate why.


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