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What 08-17-2011 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1039799)
Well, before any of the 824's can "flow" they will have to hire from the street.

The company can make it 100% Eagle pilots if it wants to. The ruling states 50% Of the AA classes will be occupied by Eagle pilots (there is some other language as well). But the can chose to flow as many pilots as the want and hire of they street when they want.

Saabs 08-17-2011 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1039610)
I was just throwing ideas around on the internet, sorry if it set you off. I dont actually think thats even going to happen, I dont think anyone does. Its a web forum of speculation, I was just speculating off what the guy before said. I will try and tread more lightly and listen more.

I dont come on here to make anyone mad, I just come on here to speculate. What happens to eagle happens to me, so I like to play in the ideas, sorry for sounding over bearing, I wasnt trying to come off like I knew anything more than anyone else.

Preach on brother man that other guy was a dick to u

RJ Pilot 08-17-2011 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1039808)
The company can make it 100% Eagle pilots if it wants to. The ruling states 50% Of the AA classes will be occupied by Eagle pilots (there is some other language as well). But the can chose to flow as many pilots as the want and hire of they street when they want.


100% Eagle pilots, aint happening. They will "transfer" as many as they want pending staffing at Eagle. They withheld some FT's back in the late 90's...

bailee atr 08-17-2011 06:07 AM

If we shrink the fleet size and get fat on crew staffing levels, there is no need to withhold the flowups. Disclaimer: I've never seen this place properly staffed!!!

RJ Pilot 08-17-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by bailee atr (Post 1039819)
If we shrink the fleet size and get fat on crew staffing levels, there is no need to withhold the flowups. Disclaimer: I've never seen this place properly staffed!!!

Shrink= Displacements or furloughs. Not everyone wants to flow...

labbats 08-17-2011 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1039808)
The company can make it 100% Eagle pilots if it wants to. The ruling states 50% Of the AA classes will be occupied by Eagle pilots (there is some other language as well). But the can chose to flow as many pilots as the want and hire of they street when they want.

Run that by the APA guys who want AA to hire their military buddies and let me know how that goes.

What 08-17-2011 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1039827)
Run that by the APA guys who want AA to hire their military buddies and let me know how that goes.

Guys not saying that they will just load up on eagle pilots. But if we start parking airplanes and put (young pilots) on the streets is defeating the purpose of cutting pilot cost because we will then be a more senior group. I am not having a wet dream or anything but you will see Eagle having atleat 50% of AA classes. That is the way is written for the 824. Again we know how creative companies can be. As far as everyone flowing, absolutely agree not everyone wants or is going to go for obvious reasons (senior guys & guys with certain priorities). Our upgrade time is about 4.5 years right now but te majority of our captains have been with the company for over 10 yrs. So I do believe that AMR will do whatever it can to get as many eagle captain at AA first year pay as possible. What number will that be, thats the big question. As Far as APA, not to sound like a company man but we as pilots often forget we are workforce and in today's market we have little leverage. How much of a voice did APA have on the "every eagle pilot going to AA" (by the way that LOA will be interesting to see). It will still be a few years before the market turn in our favor.

The Chow 08-17-2011 09:56 AM

Fee for departure
 
Over in the major's section under the Delta L&G the Delta pilots have been discussing the end of the fee for departure to the DCI carriers.

Does anyone know what Eagle's current arrangement is with AMR?

samballs 08-17-2011 10:07 AM

My bet is next contract DL pilots will give up more scope, creating more fee for deparure flights.

PilotJ3 08-17-2011 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1039786)
One of my buds at the school house (Eagle), stated that Dan G wants to see all the twelve year senior guys and up at Eagle to flow to AA prior to any AA hiring. You will see things really start to move at Eagle if this is true.

That won't happen because a lot of SENIORS captains don't want to flow or change company.


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