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Old 08-14-2011, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Convairator View Post
you have a doctorate and want to become a regional airline pilot?!? I know you hear this all too often on these forums, but my sincere advice for you, don't do it!
With two months of training figured into to your first year pay, you will make less than 23k your first year. 5 year regional upgrade, you are six years from breaking 40,000/year.

Too many pilots go onto APC and look at wages of Delta/Fedex/AA captains, and think, wow, pilots do make alot of money. However, most people are not fedex captains. It will take you years to realize anything close to these wages, while plugging away at the regionals making extremely low pay.
I would strongly encourage you to not enter the regional airline industry.

* many who choose to enter love saying that classic line, 'my buddies are sitting in cubicles rotting while im flying this sweet fast jet all over the country'.

You are flying this awesome fast jet for minimum wage, spending christmas, thanksgiving, new years eve, and your birthday in the comfort inn Wichita. But hey, there is a Walmart within walking distance, and tomorow you get to sit hot reserve in ord, so the future is looking bright.
Just to balance this post a bit, many upgrade within 2-3 years as a regional CA...timing is everything and now could be a good time. Also, for my regional, you're looking at more like 60-70 after upgrade and top outs over 100. If you do anything extra- ck airman, sim ck airman- you could be into the 100's. Go into it realistically and don't expect the above, but it's still possible to live comfortably.
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:42 AM
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Could be that they view your advanced degree as a negative. They will spend a lot of $$ training you and if they consider you a risk to leave when you are weighed against an guy w/ an aviation bachelors /masters...well, who would you pick? I do think you'll eventually get there as the pool dwindles, but you're outside the norm for applicants and anything outside the norm right now is probably a risk to them. Keep plugging away and find some way to fly more frequently to show that you are committed to the profession.
To me, if I am on the interview team, I'd view your resume as someone who is sticking a line in the water but not committed to fishing. I might interview you if I had extra spots. You can't do anything about the PHD and it's a great accomplishment anyway, but bring your time in the last 12 months up to at leas the 300-500 range.
I absolutely get that regarding the degree, but I wonder how many applicants these days are actually aviation-degreed versus high school grads who've earned their ratings at their local flight school. In any case, my thinking had been that they would look at it as a gauge for potential, or lack thereof, to wash out of training. I didn't think of it from your standpoint, that I could be viewed as someone who may cut and run early on. I guess they won't know that until they talk to me about it.

Until there's some movement, though, I keep humping it with my current business and, when I can, I pick up a trip here and there. If I really focused on it, I could get 50+ hours/mo. of TPIC. Similarly, I own a 172 and I could spend my days burning the wings off of it, but I have it on leaseback to a flight school instead.

Again, thanks for the feedback. I appreciate everyone's perspectives - even the ones who criticize.
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:28 AM
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If Eagle hasn't replied to your app, it may not be complete. Just to check, you did publish your app right (I know stupid question)? The other thing is go in and check the addendum. I had a problem where I would save my information and go back into it to update it and it would be blank. Your app will not get sent if the addendum is not complete.

As for applicants with degrees, Eagle looks very highly on those with a degree. When I did my interview they seemed impressed that I had one from a non-aviation related field. Having advanced degrees shows them that you are a better risk than those who do not have any with completing their program. You stand just as good a shot as anyone unless you have skeletons in your closet. Go through your app with a fine toothed comb and make sure there are no mistakes, and everything is presented how you want it to be (Eagle is BIG on attention to detail). Good luck to you!
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
Great. Another career changer wanting to play airline pilot. I bet you would do the job for free.
Take your negativity and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You are just what this industry DOESN'T need. Try helping someone out for a change.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:09 PM
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Here's a Q. After an airline has sent you a "thank you for your application however at this time we are unable to offer interview... " letter, how do you reset, if you will, your application so thay are able to see it again in 6 mos or whatever their requirement is?
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:28 PM
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Every time you update something (I.e. flight time) the employers get the update. Ignore Eagle's 90 day wait as they have brought guys in a week later after getting sent home from an interview
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mach Crit View Post
I absolutely get that regarding the degree, but I wonder how many applicants these days are actually aviation-degreed versus high school grads who've earned their ratings at their local flight school. In any case, my thinking had been that they would look at it as a gauge for potential, or lack thereof, to wash out of training. I didn't think of it from your standpoint, that I could be viewed as someone who may cut and run early on. I guess they won't know that until they talk to me about it.

Until there's some movement, though, I keep humping it with my current business and, when I can, I pick up a trip here and there. If I really focused on it, I could get 50+ hours/mo. of TPIC. Similarly, I own a 172 and I could spend my days burning the wings off of it, but I have it on leaseback to a flight school instead.

Again, thanks for the feedback. I appreciate everyone's perspectives - even the ones who criticize.
I am in the exact same boat here...Don't be discouraged by people writing comments like "want to play airline pilot"...
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Old 08-16-2011, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
Every time you update something (I.e. flight time) the employers get the update. Ignore Eagle's 90 day wait as they have brought guys in a week later after getting sent home from an interview
Are you saying that Eagle interviewed a guy, turned him down, and a week later asked him to come in to interview again?

And this was not a clerical error or something goofy?
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:09 PM
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Are you saying that Eagle interviewed a guy, turned him down, and a week later asked him to come in to interview again?

And this was not a clerical error or something goofy?
A friend of mine who went through a few weeks ago in the interview said that another guy there with him had interviewed the week prior, got sent home because of a paperwork issue, and given another interview the following week.

I'm guessing if they're a relatively solid candidate in Eagle's eyes that they're starting to bend on minor paperwork errors.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:15 AM
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A friend of mine who went through a few weeks ago in the interview said that another guy there with him had interviewed the week prior, got sent home because of a paperwork issue, and given another interview the following week.

I'm guessing if they're a relatively solid candidate in Eagle's eyes that they're starting to bend on minor paperwork errors.

YOu know I have heard of this happening as well. I believe though it is only with the paperwork side of the interview. If you fail your sim tech hr then I would imagine you would have to wait the 90 days or whatever. Just make copies of EVERYThing and I mean everything, I even copied my pre-interview packet just because the check list item below said copies of all above documents.

They didn't even take copies of some of the things you obviously needed. Probably part of it is just to see if you can follow orders and pay attention to detail.
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