Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

Compass off the ground?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-29-2006 | 06:24 PM
  #1  
joel payne's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: B767A[ret.]
Default Compass off the ground?

Compass Airlines Near Takeoff


Northwest Airlines takes another step toward getting its Compass Airlines subsidiary off the ground.

The U.S. Department of Transportation has approved Compass' request to begin flying.

Compass still needs FAA approval to become the third regional carrier flying for Northwest. As a more than $4 million dollar investment, Compass could have as many as 36 small jets flying within five years, but its start date hasn't been set.

Compass will compete for regional flights with Northwest's two other regional feeders, Mesaba Airlines and Pinnacle Airlines, under the Northwest Airlink name. Those two carriers get all of their business from Northwest.

Both Northwest and Mesaba are reorganizing under bankruptcy protection.
Reply
Old 10-01-2006 | 10:42 AM
  #2  
Space Monkey's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 262
Likes: 0
From: Red Tail CRJ CA
Default

I guess that would explain why they finally took all the plugs out of that CRJ at IAD......
Reply
Old 10-01-2006 | 02:05 PM
  #3  
surreal1221's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Default

It's their way of getting non-union pilots willing to work for less than the PCL guys.

Fkn sad.
Reply
Old 10-01-2006 | 02:08 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by surreal1221
It's their way of getting non-union pilots willing to work for less than the PCL guys.

Fkn sad.
You DO realize that Compass is ALPA, and not only that, but those hired off the street will have a NWA (mainline) senority number, right?
Reply
Old 10-01-2006 | 02:22 PM
  #5  
higney85's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,618
Likes: 10
From: Bus driver
Default

What is interesting about the seniority number deal is that it was supposed to be furloughed NWA mainline guys getting called back and getting to start at compass, but from what I was hearing from some NW DC-9 guys is that they wanted to call back 50 pilots, but had to go 300 deep to get 50. Thats about a 1 to 6 ratio. I'm not sure how many pilots NW furloughed or how many they called back, but it may truly turn into an "off the street" event once they get more planes. Also NWA may still be in bancruptcy but guys are still nearing retirement so I am not sure how long NWA will be able to maintain with the current pilot loads. The same DC-9 guys were told that -if things continue the way they are- all furloughed guys will have been called back (doesnt mean all will come back) and that they may actually need to hire a few classes to deal with guys retiring, leaving, etc. There is alot of hearsay in that but time will tell. Personally I see more of a transition to get the DC-9's out and take the routes and use either the 76 seaters, A319's, or some of the 50 seaters to cover. I dont see much happening for a while either way.
Reply
Old 10-01-2006 | 04:37 PM
  #6  
CL65driver's Avatar
CA
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 0
From: I am the Captain now...
Default

Any news on Pinnacle being let out of their obligation to fly just NW Airlink? Would be interesting to see them branch out somewhere else.

Who knows- my crystal ball says this Compass thing will go through and NWA will screw both Mesaba and Pinchanickle. C'mon, it's the NWA way!
Reply
Old 10-01-2006 | 06:54 PM
  #7  
higney85's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,618
Likes: 10
From: Bus driver
Default

Originally Posted by CL65driver
Any news on Pinnacle being let out of their obligation to fly just NW Airlink? Would be interesting to see them branch out somewhere else.

Who knows- my crystal ball says this Compass thing will go through and NWA will screw both Mesaba and Pinchanickle. C'mon, it's the NWA way!

There were 3 days of negotiations with arbitration last week. I would expect to hear more this week.. let the picketing begin! Most things have recieved the TA stamp but the big issues such as compensation, scheduling, duty time, and benefits have been the issues (arent they the big ones anyway...). I hope its worked out soon for everyone's sake! I wouldnt mind PNCL flying for other people, in my view its added job security, but the non-union aspect is a big issue that the current PNCL senority list wont tolerate.
Reply
Old 10-02-2006 | 04:41 AM
  #8  
crewdawg52's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
From: Right Seat 744
Default

The real numbers were something in the order of 140 recall notices to get a class of 25 for training in Oct.

119 sent out last Fri for 25 to start training in Dec. Total on furlough I believe is approx 425. That's a guesstimation.

Last edited by crewdawg52; 10-02-2006 at 04:54 AM.
Reply
Old 10-02-2006 | 05:08 AM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by CL65driver
Any news on Pinnacle being let out of their obligation to fly just NW Airlink? Would be interesting to see them branch out somewhere else.

Who knows- my crystal ball says this Compass thing will go through and NWA will screw both Mesaba and Pinchanickle. C'mon, it's the NWA way!
Pinnacle would have no airplanes to fly, they are all NWA planes. I hate to say it, as a fprmer pinnacle pilot, looks like bye bye pinnacle. My guess is 2 years, another ACA
Reply
Old 10-02-2006 | 09:42 AM
  #10  
higney85's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,618
Likes: 10
From: Bus driver
Default

Originally Posted by jmack
Pinnacle would have no airplanes to fly, they are all NWA planes. I hate to say it, as a fprmer pinnacle pilot, looks like bye bye pinnacle. My guess is 2 years, another ACA

How could NW cover the 700 flights a day that pinnacle does? compass can only get a certain number of planes on the cert and I know its much less than the 124 PNCL currently flies.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
N261ND
Military
14
10-10-2006 10:06 PM
PinnacleFO
Regional
22
04-07-2006 12:29 PM
fireman0174
Major
14
03-30-2006 03:02 AM
NightFlyer29
Regional
2
03-07-2006 03:58 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices