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conquestdz 09-25-2011 03:18 PM

This is like listening to the weekend pilots at the local FBO argue that their Cessna 172 is better than the other guys Cherokee over their $100 hamburger. Does anyone want to chime in with a high wing vs. low wing debate? That one never gets old either.

DryMotorBoatin 09-25-2011 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by s10an (Post 1060010)

Not sure if I'm tired, but how did you get 8 minutes to fly 300 miles?

http://taboodada.files.wordpress.com...x-plane_11.jpg


Scram jet...duh.

Wingtips 09-25-2011 03:24 PM

but dont worry, United is gonna throw all those first class seats on the Q, and soon it will be doing CRJ900 flying, and they will park all the jets!

Because it burns 1/2 as much fuel to go from ORD to HOU in the Q400 compared to a CRJ700!!


But didn't you get the memo, UAL is going to buy GOJET and only let them do any flying more than 15 seats. Next UAL will buy them any airplane they want, and only have the company of gojet hire the pilot and pay them $50/hr FO and $150 CAPT. Only thing the GO JET pilots have to do is kill, cook, and eat a pilot from a respectable competitor, then they pass INDOC.

s10an 09-25-2011 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1060013)
8 minutes at climb thrust, which burns maybe 3500 pds hr, then at that point we cruise along at 2900/lb hour and 320 kts.

okay gotcha.. 8 min climb to FL190.. And a total flight time of 35 min to cover 300 miles. or 35+8 to cover 300?

Am I splitting hairs here?

Saabs 09-25-2011 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1060025)
but dont worry, United is gonna throw all those first class seats on the Q, and soon it will be doing CRJ900 flying, and they will park all the jets!

Because it burns 1/2 as much fuel to go from ORD to HOU in the Q400 compared to a CRJ700!!


But didn't you get the memo, UAL is going to buy GOJET and only let them do any flying more than 15 seats. Next UAL will buy them any airplane they want, and only have the company of gojet hire the pilot and pay them $50/hr FO and $150 CAPT. Only thing the GO JET pilots have to do is kill, cook, and eat a pilot from a respectable competitor, then they pass INDOC.

Dont care to respond do u? U sure were quick to talk about my dead friends and now u can't talk??

Wingtips 09-25-2011 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1060031)
Dont care to respond do u? U sure were quick to talk about my dead friends and now u can't talk??

Because 2 people allowed a plane to stall while on an ILS, then pull back DURING A STALL........2 PEOPLE!!!! TWO...

Explain to me how this ever came to happen???? OH YA, a training department did not fire a captain who should have never made it through upgrade training, and the paper trail shows it.

Colgan should have been sued SO MUCH it went CH 7, end of story. Its sad when you get bought to hide your sorry name, smells like valuejet I mean Airtran.

Too bad that flight wasnt a CAL owned XJ. Bet ya my life it would not have crashed.

cencal83406 09-25-2011 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1060035)
Because 2 people allowed a plane to stall while on an ILS, then pull back DURING A STALL........2 PEOPLE!!!! TWO...

Explain to me how this ever came to happen???? OH YA, a training department did not fire a captain who should have never made it through upgrade training, and the paper trail shows it.

Colgan should have been sued SO MUCH it went CH 7, end of story. Its sad when you get bought to hide your sorry name, smells like valuejet I mean Airtran.

Too bad that flight wasnt a CAL owned XJ. Bet ya my life it would not have crashed.

Hmm.... CAL didn't own XJT in 2009....

outsider observation, writing "hiding behind your sorry name" is really ironic considering "Wingtips", ie, you, don't sign your full name...

Wingtips 09-25-2011 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 1060037)
Hmm.... CAL didn't own XJT in 2009....

outsider observation, writing "hiding behind your sorry name" is really ironic considering "Wingtips", ie, you, don't sign your full name...

Sounds like EVERYONE on this website. MAYBE the first problem was companies coming in to take CAL regional flying, how many people got woodies over the idea of their regional taking flying from the big bad wolf called XJ. Look what that got everyone!

What 09-25-2011 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1060045)
Frankly sir, you're a dumb ass and your comments prove it....
:rolleyes:
Valuejet aka AirTran is now Southwest dumb ass.

I am not sticking up for Wintips but his point is that Colgan will be merged with Mesaba as a way to burry the Colgan name and reputation. Airtran changing name from Valujet. The Colgan Crash was an accident induced by many factor most Pilot error. Now are you telling me that below 10,000 ft on every airliner you can hear crickets. Than your airline doesn't have a few guys that have just made it buy. That your airline hasn't hired pilots that barely made standards. Guys welcome to corporate America, it's just going to get worse. The Colgan crew messed up, but it could happen to anyone at any given time.

cencal83406 09-25-2011 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1060044)
Sounds like EVERYONE on this website. MAYBE the first problem was companies coming in to take CAL regional flying, how many people got woodies over the idea of their regional taking flying from the big bad wolf called XJ. Look what that got everyone!

How do you keep getting it wrong if you work there?

XJT. I would also caution you that regional flying can't be stolen from other regionals, as it isn't their flying in the first place. It's always the mainline pilot's flying. The scope they have determines whether the regional pilots have jobs.

I personally hope that flying doesn't continue to bump around between regionals, and that it goes back to the rightful owners of the flying.


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