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Old 10-04-2011 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNasaForm
Avoid buying food on the road and pocket your per diem by packing food. Get yourself a good cooler and a couple ice packs. When possible put your whole cooler in the refrigerator overnight, that way the ice packs don't have to cool down the bag. After an 18 hour day (w/ commute) my bag would still be cold. I often went an entire month without spending money on the road (for food or fun). But I was a slam clicker.

If you don't like cooking buy one or two rotisserie chickens before your trip and cut them up. I also packed tortillas and shredded cheese and made mini soft taco wraps.

Make sure you do some searching come tax time. If your company pass you less per diem than the IRS standard daily rate for transportation workers, most of the difference is delectable.

Get a library card and pick up Dave Ramsey's book "The Total Money Makeover: A Proven Plan for Financial Fitness". (If your local library doesn't have a copy ask abut an "inter-library loan".) Stick with the budget he'll show you how to make and it will be amazing how much money you have left over at the end of the month.

Good luck!
What a sad, but true, testiment to this "profession." This post is what should be read by all students at flight schools around this country. Especially at places like ERAU.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I became an airline pilot to travel and enjoy cities. To enjoy a city, I have to spend money. It must be a boring life spending all your layovers in your hotel room. The advice on this thread is horrible.
Well said. Financial responsibility is for losers.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I became an airline pilot to travel and enjoy cities. To enjoy a city, I have to spend money. It must be a boring life spending all your layovers in your hotel room. The advice on this thread is horrible.
Yeah, because the sights to see in Moline, Greenville MS, charleston WV, et al are just so exciting! Look, there's a walmart across the street, that's a once in a lifetime experience!

part of what I do to save money every trip allows me to flexibility to be able to go out and enjoy the sights on the rare occasions that I A: have a decent layover city and B: have enough time to actually do something. Maybe you just have all these long layovers in awesome places, but for most of us we don't want to go see the one stoplight downtown in some two-bit city.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by zildjian_zach
Well said. Financial responsibility is for losers.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by zildjian_zach
Well said. Financial responsibility is for losers.
Financial responsibility is not taking out a $100,000 loan to qualify yourself for a $20,000-$40,000 year job. It's not maxing out credit cards and living within your means. Spending per diem on the road is financially responsible. That is what it is there for. That said. I have taken some food from home for my first lunch on the road. I also usually take some sort of trail mix to eat as a snack when I'm flying. To me, taking four days worth of food just seems like a lot of work. I won't judge anymore. Some valid points have been made. When I worked at a regional on first year pay, I was single and living in an apartment with a roommate. My car was paid off. I had very little college loans. Almost all my money was spending money. Now I have a house. First year pay at a regional wouldn't even pay my mortgage.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 04:43 AM
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Spending per diem on the road is financially responsible
Of course, it's only $1.80-ish an hr!
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Old 10-05-2011 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Dump the girlfriend and find a MILF.
What he said. A rich one.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 07:31 AM
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Who the hell has time to enjoy the city when your at some dump on the outskirts of BFE?

Stay away from hotel bars..rip off. Pack your own booze.

Pack food for three days and grab a cheap side salad on day four.

Grill 3-4 chicken breasts; chop em up and put em in small container. Boil 10 eggs and put em in a big ziploc; eat the yolks so your farts will stink. Brown rice in a small container. Hummus and carrots. Raisins and almonds. Pita bread. Lettuce/Spinach only last a day or two. Black beans in a container. Buy the Real Ice blocks from Target; stay frozen the longest. Buy your grocery at Wal Mart - i hate that place but its cheap.

Bring your running shoes, elastic bands, download some fitness apps on your smart phone (1.99).

First year pay SUCKS...ain't much better after that either. I know I'm on 7 year f/o pay and not by choice either.

Or...go back to school.

Good luck.
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Old 10-05-2011 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingNasaForm
Avoid buying food on the road and pocket your per diem by packing food. Get yourself a good cooler and a couple ice packs. When possible put your whole cooler in the refrigerator overnight, that way the ice packs don't have to cool down the bag. After an 18 hour day (w/ commute) my bag would still be cold. I often went an entire month without spending money on the road (for food or fun). But I was a slam clicker.

If you don't like cooking buy one or two rotisserie chickens before your trip and cut them up. I also packed tortillas and shredded cheese and made mini soft taco wraps.

Make sure you do some searching come tax time. If your company pass you less per diem than the IRS standard daily rate for transportation workers, most of the difference is delectable.

Get a library card and pick up Dave Ramsey's book "The Total Money Makeover: A Proven Plan for Financial Fitness". (If your local library doesn't have a copy ask abut an "inter-library loan".) Stick with the budget he'll show you how to make and it will be amazing how much money you have left over at the end of the month.

Good luck!
Are the expenses delectable or deductible? Same with the chicken? <grin>
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Old 10-05-2011 | 12:43 PM
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I try to bring some food because sometimes you just can't eat right on the road. Def some trail mix, can of tuna, cans of V8, some whey protein. However, when I try to bring lots of leftovers, it is a pain in the butt to keep it cold and even if I do, it's just not appetizing to eat food that has been sitting in a bag like that. There's a lot to be said for fresh food. I allow myself to spend my full per diem but I end up spending about half of it on average. I find out where the cheaper places to get healthy food are and avoid most hotel restaurants (although, sometimes they have good deals) and on some overnights, getting food at the airport before heading to the hotel is the best option.

The part that sucks is just being patient to have discretionary income to do things that you like. Like actually use your standby travel to explore new places and buy things like a pair of hockey skates or the optional leather jacket. The countdown to second year pay continues....
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