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Old 10-29-2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
I don't understand, at our company there were plenty of people that couldn't go to Canada, they just put someone else that could on the schedule. What's the big deal at Skywest with not hiring people that can't go there?
Seniority? You obviously don't understand how that works yet.

A senior pilot should have to fly a crappy canada trip because a junior pilot was irresponsible in his past?

Canada made this rule up only a few years ago, so all airlines probably got stuck with a few pilots who could not go north. They could have fired them, but they worked around the issue instead. But it makes no sense to knowingly hire pilots who arre going to be an operatioanlly limited and require special handling for years or forever.

I don't mind my airline hiring pilots who had a DUI in their distant past. But I don't want my airline hiring pilots junior to me who have operational limitations...I already paid my dues (well most of them), I don't want to have to pay them again because somebody junior to me can't.

If we were talking Paris instead of Edmonton it wouldn't be an issue.


Originally Posted by minimwage4
And to the original poster I know a recent Skywest hire that had a DUI within 5 years. He fought it, like everyone should, and I believe now it just shows up as an arrest in his records.
That's what you have to do...get it reduced to something which is not a felony-equivalent in canada.

A DUI means you will have an uphill battle with the recruiters regardless. But if you can't enter canada, it's no-go
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Old 10-29-2011 | 01:07 PM
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Well since it's going to take another 2 years to get my waiver, I decided I'm going to find a 135 outfit and get my 1000 PIC, skip the regionals and go to the majors.
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Old 10-29-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
Well since it's going to take another 2 years to get my waiver, I decided I'm going to find a 135 outfit and get my 1000 PIC, skip the regionals and go to the majors.
I am sorry to inform you but majors are not waiting for you to obtain 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC so they can hire you, JetBlue doesn't even require 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC (last I saw) because they want to look at the overall person. You do understand that you will be competing with thousands of other pilots who have the coveted 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC, most of these individuals will have thousands of hrs in transport category aircraft in a 121 environment. When Delta, SWA and JetBlue have opened their hiring windows in year past they have received over 10,000 resumes/applications. You will need to be able to make it past the filters and a DUI might not allow you to do so. You seem to have a diverse background and a fairly competitive resume, but the competition at the majors will be fierce! And unfortunately you will probably deal with the same issue over and over. Go read the Colgan E-mail thread, this is working agains you.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
I recieved a DUI in 2006. I have spoken with recruiters from virtually every regional, even interviewed at one. I can tell you that at 2900/130 hours, a bachelors degree, no checkride failures, and being a jet mechanic in the guard, I can not get anyone to hire me.
Make sure that you go to a place where you can be for a long time. Not a place just to get 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC.
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Old 10-29-2011 | 04:11 PM
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Speeding around blind corners, driving home on 5 beers, operating an aircraft without enough rest, the list goes on.... basically, we've all done things that *could* have hurt somebody if our luck went sour. Of course there is a difference between trying to limp home buzzed and driving with a fifth in your system, but be reasonable here guys. Just because somebody got a DUI doesn't make them a menace to society.

If you haven't been irresponsible in your past, I feel sorry for ya.... thats not living :-) That said, most of us have decisions we regret, just get on with life and do what you can to rectify the situation. Most of our records would be much spottier if we had a camera on us 24/7, so kindly get down off that high horse.
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Old 10-29-2011 | 04:30 PM
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I am sorry to inform you but majors are not waiting for you to obtain 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC so they can hire you, JetBlue doesn't even require 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC (last I saw) because they want to look at the overall person. You do understand that you will be competing with thousands of other pilots who have the coveted 1,000 hrs Turbine PIC, most of these individuals will have thousands of hrs in transport category aircraft in a 121 environment. When Delta, SWA and JetBlue have opened their hiring windows in year past they have received over 10,000 resumes/applications. You will need to be able to make it past the filters and a DUI might not allow you to do so. You seem to have a diverse background and a fairly competitive resume, but the competition at the majors will be fierce! And unfortunately you will probably deal with the same issue over and over. Go read the Colgan E-mail thread, this is working agains you.
I'm fully aware of the uphill battle, and well aware of filters. Fortunately, "who you know" can bypass filters. I'm shooting for it, even if I don't make it, all the wrok that I put trying to get to the majors will likely land me a job somewhere else.
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Old 10-29-2011 | 04:45 PM
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Yup..don't give up. Sounds like what has some skeletons in his closet too.
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Old 10-29-2011 | 05:54 PM
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Old 10-30-2011 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
Well since it's going to take another 2 years to get my waiver, I decided I'm going to find a 135 outfit and get my 1000 PIC, skip the regionals and go to the majors.
Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
Fortunately, "who you know" can bypass filters. I'm shooting for it, even if I don't make it, all the wrok that I put trying to get to the majors will likely land me a job somewhere else.
Ha! You're a real piece of work.
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Old 10-30-2011 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Seniority? You obviously don't understand how that works yet.

A senior pilot should have to fly a crappy canada trip because a junior pilot was irresponsible in his past?
I don't know how it's done at a Skywest, but here at Pinnacle, Crew Scheduling will jus swap out a Canada over night or a turn for another one that's about equal. The person who gets stuck with the flight will be paid the greater of the 2.. What's the big big deal?
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Old 10-31-2011 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I don't know how it's done at a Skywest, but here at Pinnacle, Crew Scheduling will jus swap out a Canada over night or a turn for another one that's about equal. The person who gets stuck with the flight will be paid the greater of the 2.. What's the big big deal?
There's a reason most Canada trips at SkyW are the most junior.... With the exception of Vancouver and Victoria, most everyone avoids trips there from Sept thru April. As a previous poster said, it would be bypassing seniority.
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