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rickair7777 10-31-2011 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1077634)
I don't know how it's done at a Skywest, but here at Pinnacle, Crew Scheduling will jus swap out a Canada over night or a turn for another one that's about equal. The person who gets stuck with the flight will be paid the greater of the 2.. What's the big big deal?

My choice to work at SKW had a lot to do with geography...every 4-day gets me generally one overnight at home with my small child. And I don't live in Edmonton. That's a HUGE deal

Get it?

Maybe PNCL has fantastic overnights in dowtown montreal, with a strip club in the basement of the hotel but other than Vancounver (which are generally pretty short) all the canada overnights suck. And canada sucks if you need to use your phone or internet.

Std Deviation 10-31-2011 05:51 AM

I was seated on a jury in Texas regarding a DWI case. All the prosecution had to prove according to TX law was that the person was in the vehicle in a public place and had a BAC at or above .08. Semantics of course but endless testimony about "public" and the assertion is that the car did not get there by itself.

They don't have to show access to keys. You're the only one there (Even if your buddies bailed on you), your BAC is above the TX legal limit, and the car is in a public place. That's exactly what happened - cops rolled up to the parking lot, did the field test and breathalyzer, and arrested the perp. Turns out this was the 3rd offense which in TX is a felony.

We were getting ready to go to the jury room to discuss, when the defendant pleaded. Took 5 years in a federal prison rather than take his chances with our decision.

Silver02ex 10-31-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1077658)
There's a reason most Canada trips at SkyW are the most junior.... With the exception of Vancouver and Victoria, most everyone avoids trips there from Sept thru April. As a previous poster said, it would be bypassing seniority.

I guess it's different for us then. We can have a mix of Canada turns or overnight even with our 28 hrs 4 day 20 hrs 3 day or 15 hrs 2 day.
For Example: 4 day Trip worth 27 HRS, Report at about 8 am and get done at 4:30PM on the last day with a 13:45 hrs in YYZ. With customs pay that comes out to almost 27:30 pay.

FR 4144 DTW-CID 0852 0930 138 137 45
FR 4144 CID-DTW 1015 1253 138 135 108
FR 4196 DTW-LAN 1401 1443 42 43 27
FR 4361 LAN-MSP 1510 1558 148 145 139
FR 4333 MSP-YYZ 1737 2045 208 203 754 0 743 0 1308 YYZ 1345
D-END: 2100L (NR 900) REPT: 1045L

SA 4196 YYZ-DTW 1115 1233 118 121 125
SA 4137 DTW-YUL 1358 1544 146 145 29
SA 4137 YUL-DTW 1613 1815 202 202 142
SA 4225 DTW-FWA 1957 2053 56 56 602 0 604 0 1023 FWA 930
D-END: 2108L (RR 900) REPT: 0638L

SU 4323 FWA-ATL 0708 0854 146 154 41
SU 4010 ATL-SBN 0935 1127 152 152 31
SU 4040 SBN-DTW 1158 1302 104 103 231
SU DH 4275 DTW-MQT 1533 1659 126 126 CRJ 442 126 615 0 1036 MQT 1245
D-END: 1714L (CR 1200) REPT: 0559L

MO 4286 MQT-DTW 0629 0749 120 118 50
MO 3755 DTW-SBN 0839 0935 56 56 25
MO 4247 SBN-ATL 1000 1153 153 158 42
MO 4368 ATL-FWA 1235 1415 140 148 134
MO 3912 FWA-DTW 1549 1650 101 58 650 0 658 1 1106
D-END: 1705L --------------------------------------
TOTALS BLOCK 2528 DHD 126 CREDIT 2700 T.A.F.B. 8113

FIIGMO 10-31-2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by PruneJuice (Post 1075045)
Skywest is a Mormon company so they probably look even more down at a dui.

Man, I just spit my coffee all over the place laughing at that one! Just go over to Loftes in SLC and then report back! LMAO:D

N9373M 10-31-2011 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Std Deviation (Post 1077695)
We were getting ready to go to the jury room to discuss, when the defendant pleaded. Took 5 years in a federal prison rather than take his chances with our decision.

how/why were the Feds involved? Just curious.

Std Deviation 10-31-2011 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 1077744)
how/why were the Feds involved? Just curious.


It was the third offense for DWI/DUI in Texas. 3rd time (after two convictions) in the Lone Star State is an automatic felony. Hence, Huntsville federal prison - the location of Ole Sparky, and the elctric chair museum (not kidding about that!). When the judge excused the jury (us) he told us what the plea deal was. Guy opted for 5 years. In Texas the jury also sets the penalty so he was probably thinking he was going to get more from the jury.

JustAMushroom 11-01-2011 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1077732)
I guess it's different for us

Yup. Very different. For the most part, those parings you showed would go junior at SW. Not sure why. They seem to pay ok. But east of Denver and north of Jackson Hole is generally a junior trip. There are exceptions for certain cities and times of year.

To the DUI guy. Good luck. We all make mistakes. Take your lumps and keep trying.

citation35hf 11-02-2011 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Std Deviation (Post 1077695)
We were getting ready to go to the jury room to discuss, when the defendant pleaded. Took 5 years in a federal prison rather than take his chances with our decision.

Uh, you do not go to federal prison for a state crime...

Also, NO ONE is getting 5 years, even for a 3rd DUI offense. You need to seriously injure or kill someone to get 5 years.

Your story is full of holes......

CriticalMach 11-02-2011 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1077659)
My choice to work at SKW had a lot to do with geography...every 4-day gets me generally one overnight at home with my small child. And I don't live in Edmonton. That's a HUGE deal

Get it?

Maybe PNCL has fantastic overnights in dowtown montreal, with a strip club in the basement of the hotel but other than Vancounver (which are generally pretty short) all the canada overnights suck. And canada sucks if you need to use your phone or internet.

Actually from what i have heard, Canada has one of the best internet connections compared to US hotels. I have an overnight this weekend in Winnipeg, I will confirm on that report.

DENpilot 11-02-2011 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by CriticalMach (Post 1079118)
Actually from what i have heard, Canada has one of the best internet connections compared to US hotels. I have an overnight this weekend in Winnipeg, I will confirm on that report.

I always have trouble with the internet in Canada. Halifax was OK, but YYZ, YQM, YQB have all sucked.


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