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F9 A319 11-10-2011 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by MistyFAC (Post 1082978)
I'd say those "top tier" RAH pilots have earned it, don't you?! :p

Surely, you jest. Or are you just firing for effect?

Or do you mean they deserve to go with Chautauqua or Republic if one of them is sold first?

F9 A319 11-10-2011 11:38 AM

From the Webinar:

Airbus's in DEN making money, every other aircraft and the FFD is losing money.

135/145's are next target for restructuring or parking along with some 170's.

Frontier now has its own VP of Flt Ops, former FAPA VP. We also have our own Director of HR and Benefits.

embraerjetpilot 11-10-2011 11:59 AM

He's just telling you what you want to hear f9

F9 A319 11-10-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot (Post 1083044)
He's just telling you what you want to hear f9

Same numbers given on the Q3 Earnings call on Tuesday, submitted to the SEC and subject to SOX.

tye05 11-10-2011 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by MistyFAC (Post 1082978)
I'd say those "top tier" RAH pilots have earned it, don't you?! :p

What earned the right to interview at a major?

Ronaldo 11-10-2011 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by F9 A319 (Post 1083034)
From the Webinar:

Airbus's in DEN making money, every other aircraft and the FFD is losing money.

135/145's are next target for restructuring or parking along with some 170's.

Frontier now has its own VP of Flt Ops, former FAPA VP. We also have our own Director of HR and Benefits.

Not sure I got that from the presentation. 190s are making money as are 319s and 320s, but 318s are losing money. The 135/145s are losing money and will likely be shifted back to FFD, and the 4 170s still flying branded will be transitioned out next year. But these numbers change depending on YTD or quarterly analysis.

IAW LOA 67, F9 will have the management types in place probably by the end of the year. It looks like f9 will have every position below COO, but no new CEO (which isn't required to spin off a shell company). So by mid next year, ceteris paribus, F9 will be 48% owned by Wexford, 49% owned by RAH, and 3% owned by FAPAInvest LLC. That's my guess. So no change.

MistyFAC 11-10-2011 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by F9 A319 (Post 1082999)
Surely, you jest. Or are you just firing for effect?

Or do you mean they deserve to go with Chautauqua or Republic if one of them is sold first?

I am jesting, my attempt at sarcasm while posting was apparently not obvious. The only thing that they deserve is to finish out their tenure at RAH flying an RJ and then leave to go to a major sans RAH seniority number like they originally planned.

F9 A319 11-10-2011 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by MistyFAC (Post 1083201)
I am jesting, my attempt at sarcasm while posting was apparently not obvious. The only thing that they deserve is to finish out their tenure at RAH flying an RJ and then leave to go to a major sans RAH seniority number like they originally planned.

Sorry, even my best friends will tell you I can be a bit slow at times......

F9 A319 11-10-2011 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 1083137)
Not sure I got that from the presentation. 190s are making money as are 319s and 320s, but 318s are losing money. The 135/145s are losing money and will likely be shifted back to FFD, and the 4 170s still flying branded will be transitioned out next year.

You're right, I misstated that part. The 318's are losing money. I think we got them for next to nothing, sadly they're worth less than nothing.

I thought the 190's were only making money feeding mainline, but I could be wrong. I should have video taped the webinar....

MistyFAC 11-11-2011 08:53 AM

Those 318's should be useful for parts and scrap metal at least.


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