Glad to see the new coo of frontier also has time to be a moderator here..

What does go jets, the original freedom, and frontier have in common?

Pilots from all three groups have had romantic events with your mother?

If you guys would have agreed to a simple flow, you would at least have that. Now with your excessive greed, you will be left with nothing.

It's a real bummer is that the new VP of Flt Ops at Frontier won't have time to be the moderator on the FAPA board any more. I could almost cry over the loss. Almost.

We have yet to get a new COO, Bryan stated in the Webinar that we would have one by years end.

We hired an exceptional individual and pilot, current VP of FAPA, as our new VP of Flight Operations and a great new Director of Human Resources and Labor Relations.

Both of them will do an outstanding job, both are long term Frontier employees, both are very professional, both can see the world from the Company's point of view AND the employee's point of view and both understand that it takes Management and Employees working together to achieve success.

By hiring these two people for their positions, Bryan showed an excellant understanding of the Frontier culture, a desire to work with employees to the betterment of Frontier and has earned a lot of respect from his employee group. We're off to a great start!

There are no F9 pilots that are Moderators on APC.

Other than those two points, your post was spot on (oh wait, those were your only two points).

That's just a ploy by Brian Bedford to fool us into thinking that he likes us.

See - you're falling for it already.

the difference between "original freedom" and freedom is what?

The original freedom guys were alter ego guys on a different seniority list to Mesa. Most of which were Mesa FO's that jumped ship for a Captain spot. After effort and a concessionary contract Mesa ALPA managed to tighten up the contract scope and bring all freedom A listers onto the Mesa seniority list. After the single seniority list Mesa pilots staffed freedom and the A lister alter ego airline lost its alter ego status. This is what I hoped would happen at Trans States with their Alter!

Ahhh...I see the parallel with Frontier. At Mesa, pilots jumped ahead into a bigger jet with higher pay at Freedom; at Frontier/RAH, some RAH pilots want to jump into the bigger jet with higher pay than those currently flying it.

You fail to remember, it was RAH that bought Frontier. Ask the NW, USAir(east), and Airtran Pilots what happens when you're bought. The buying pilot group usually gets the upper hand (even with fences). No one knows what the outcome would have been if know one bought you or picked up the tab while you were in bankruptcy. Besides, some of your buses are not much bigger than the 190.

I'm so glad none of that will matter soon. "Know one" really?