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xjtguy 11-25-2011 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by oldcarpilot (Post 1091057)
Legacy Expressjet or the new one? ASA is MUCH different on reserve.

That would be correct. There's ONLY one provision of the ASA CBA as it pertains to reserves that's better than the XJT CBA.

newarkblows 11-26-2011 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by oldcarpilot (Post 1091057)
Legacy Expressjet or the new one? ASA is MUCH different on reserve.

All hiring right now is on the XJT side. ASA is still under their own contract with a completely different system.

Nevets 11-26-2011 07:57 AM



Originally Posted by oldcarpilot (Post 1091057)
Legacy Expressjet or the new one? ASA is MUCH different on reserve.

That would be correct. There's ONLY one provision of the ASA CBA as it pertains to reserves that's better than the XJT CBA.
And what would that be?

xjtguy 11-26-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1091257)
And what would that be?

Ask and you shall receive;


A pilot on long-call reserve will not be assigned to ready reserve in that month, even if he transitions to a short-call reserve pilot.

Nevets 11-29-2011 02:30 PM



Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1091257)
And what would that be?

Ask and you shall receive;


A pilot on long-call reserve will not be assigned to ready reserve in that month, even if he transitions to a short-call reserve pilot.

So their long call guys can be converted to short call like ours but theirs aren't allowed to be assigned ready reserve like ours can? I hope we keep that in the new contract.

Airframe 11-29-2011 05:47 PM

Will the hiring for XJT stop after Dec. like everyone said or will it most likely continue throughout next year?

Banshee365 11-29-2011 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1093457)
So their long call guys can be converted to short call like ours but theirs aren't allowed to be assigned ready reserve like ours can? I hope we keep that in the new contract.

Yea, long call reserves cannot be assigned ready, even when converted to short call. That is the one and ONLY bonus to long call reserve. The company has settled into how they control reserves. In the first few years reserve was actually pretty good as the company didn't use there little benefits built into the contract. If you were awarded long call you could almost certainly sit on 12 hr call all month long. If you were awarded short call you could expect 1 or 2 ready reserve periods, maybe a few more.

In the last year the company has begun to take full advantage of anything in the contract that benefits them, even if they don't need it operationally. If you are awarded short call you can almost guarantee 4-6 ready reserve periods, often before half of the month is over. If you are awarded long call you will be converted to short call 5-7 times per month. Even if there are a TON of reserve that day they'll still convert you because they can.

I REALLY hope in the joint CBA that the number of ready reserve day's and short call conversions is cut at least in half because it is ridiculous what they're allowed to do right now. Those sort of things in the CBA were intended for IROP day's and maybe holiday's but the company operates normally off of those clauses.

xjtguy 11-29-2011 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 1093457)
So their long call guys can be converted to short call like ours but theirs aren't allowed to be assigned ready reserve like ours can? I hope we keep that in the new contract.

As the below states, yep, that's the case.


Originally Posted by Banshee365 (Post 1093588)
Yea, long call reserves cannot be assigned ready, even when converted to short call. That is the one and ONLY bonus to long call reserve. The company has settled into how they control reserves. In the first few years reserve was actually pretty good as the company didn't use there little benefits built into the contract. If you were awarded long call you could almost certainly sit on 12 hr call all month long. If you were awarded short call you could expect 1 or 2 ready reserve periods, maybe a few more.

In the last year the company has begun to take full advantage of anything in the contract that benefits them, even if they don't need it operationally. If you are awarded short call you can almost guarantee 4-6 ready reserve periods, often before half of the month is over. If you are awarded long call you will be converted to short call 5-7 times per month. Even if there are a TON of reserve that day they'll still convert you because they can.

I REALLY hope in the joint CBA that the number of ready reserve day's and short call conversions is cut at least in half because it is ridiculous what they're allowed to do right now. Those sort of things in the CBA were intended for IROP day's and maybe holiday's but the company operates normally off of those clauses.

Well that's just blasphemy right there. Because according to some other people on the pre-SOC/ASA side, ANYTHING that is going to make the pilots life better will make the company NOT cost competitive. Therefore, losing ALL flying the very next day a CBA get's signed (sarcasm).


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