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Al Czervik 12-08-2011 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1098559)
I love discovering stuff like this from the Internet rather than from our own leaders.

Agree 100% our union should have brought this to us with the "plans" for the pilot side.

Flitestar 12-08-2011 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1098559)
I love discovering stuff like this from the Internet rather than from our own leaders.

Leaders?

This word has been used way too lightly for way too long..

IBPilot 12-08-2011 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 1098559)
I love discovering stuff like this from the Internet rather than from our own leaders.


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1098569)
Agree 100% our union should have brought this to us with the "plans" for the pilot side.


Originally Posted by Flitestar (Post 1098571)
Leaders?

This word has been used way too lightly for way too long..


This kinda reminds me of those W pictures "Miss me yet?"

I thought the Mesaba union was 2nd only to Obama for their communication and hope and change policy and balls to stand up to the corporate evils...

LoopingLear 12-08-2011 07:18 AM

I think the next step is for the pilots to pay a nice fare for that front seat with a view.

flyingreasemnky 12-08-2011 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1098569)
Agree 100% our union should have brought this to us with the "plans" for the pilot side.

This information is nothing new. It was Menke's employee call and on the front page of the employee website in a letter from him since the beginning of November that Pinnacle had hired a consulting firm and was planning on bringing down costs.

B200 Hawk 12-08-2011 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky (Post 1098601)
This information is nothing new. It was Menke's employee call and on the front page of the employee website in a letter from him since the beginning of November that Pinnacle had hired a consulting firm and was planning on bringing down costs.

^This^ Keep in mind they still have mutiple people doing the exact same job across 3 companies! I think cost cutting will start at management/corporate prior to hitting the pilot group (my guess at least, FWIW). Who knows.....

B00sted 12-08-2011 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky (Post 1098601)
This information is nothing new. It was Menke's employee call and on the front page of the employee website in a letter from him since the beginning of November that Pinnacle had hired a consulting firm and was planning on bringing down costs.

Bingo. Just look at what Seabury Group specializes in.

PinnacleFO 12-08-2011 09:05 AM

Airmail has a company communication. Lots of chopping from 2 to 1 and a conference call tomorrow. I like our new CEO he may have been brought in here to do this but he is honest and to the point

MunkyButtr 12-08-2011 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1098544)
If they want to write an LOA that let them, for the next six months, make maybe 20% of lines with "built in" draft pay (ie. 10 days off with the highest credit day paid at 200%), that might be something worth consideration.

Certainly, if they offer to buy vacation at 200%, they would get some takers.



Management knew there was going to be a cluster, and that it would cost money to integrate no matter what method was used. Is it more than they expected? Perhaps. But it appears (at least in my little corner of Colgan), they are willing to spend money to keep things rolling along.

There is no perhaps about it, training will sink this ship. When or if there are furloughs, which despite the koolaid talk is a very reall possibility, all those super junior colgan upgrades will go back through downgrade training. There should have been straight fences to allow the company time to blend the airlines, two to three years at least. Blame the company all you want, but even the dumbest of dumb knew it woud be impossible to re-train 40% of the workforce my May. No company could have done and remain in the green.

80ktsClamp 12-08-2011 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1098538)
The problem with us is Delta. Delta is simply not paying us enough money for the operation they are asking us to perform.

Pinnacle shouldn't have signed an air service agreement that didn't cover their cost of operation, right? And somehow you twist this around on DL?


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