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lolwut 02-13-2012 07:41 AM
Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1134143)
How much is US Airways or United paying for your training costs?How about the concept of your company paying for its own costs?
Pinnacle (and the other regionals) don't really have too much of their own costs. They're just Delta (or whoevers') costs.. outsourced.

tcraft 02-13-2012 07:48 AM
Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1134143)
How much is US Airways or United paying for your training costs?How about the concept of your company paying for its own costs?
How about the concept of the seller honoring a legally-binding contingency of the sale?

MunkyButtr 02-13-2012 07:51 AM
Originally Posted by tcraft (Post 1134217)
How about the concept of the seller honoring a legally-binding contingency of the sale?
How else are big time corporate lawyers supposed to make the big bucks?

The Juice 02-13-2012 07:56 AM
Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1134051)
Who knows what Delta agreed to pay. When a Delta Saab goes away and ripples down to cause movement among people on the Colgan side that is still a training cost related to a Delta Saab going away. I hope 9E gets every single last penny from Delta for the training mess we are in, even for Colgan training costs. Maybe some day it will be cheaper for Delta to just do the flying themselves (if it isn't already).
How much is US Airways or United paying for your training costs?How about the concept of your company paying for its own costs?
Stop selling scope, Tim..problem solved.

ShyGuy 02-13-2012 08:41 AM
Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1134051)
Who knows what Delta agreed to pay. When a Delta Saab goes away and ripples down to cause movement among people on the Colgan side that is still a training cost related to a Delta Saab going away. I hope 9E gets every single last penny from Delta for the training mess we are in, even for Colgan training costs. Maybe some day it will be cheaper for Delta to just do the flying themselves (if it isn't already).
No, but nice try. I'm sure Delta is well aware that Pinnacle voluntarily closed the Colgan BOS Saab base only to ensure we have proper staffing on other bases and fleets. Delta should't have to pay for Pinnacle/Colgan's incompetence. Our company voluntarily gave up the US Airways Express BOS flying. Delta shouldn't have to pay one penny for that or the associated displacement costs.

The Juice 02-13-2012 08:55 AM
Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1134051)
Who knows what Delta agreed to pay. When a Delta Saab goes away and ripples down to cause movement among people on the Colgan side that is still a training cost related to a Delta Saab going away. I hope 9E gets every single last penny from Delta for the training mess we are in, even for Colgan training costs. Maybe some day it will be cheaper for Delta to just do the flying themselves (if it isn't already).
No, but nice try. I'm sure Delta is well aware that Pinnacle voluntarily closed the Colgan BOS Saab base only to ensure we have proper staffing on other bases and fleets. Delta should't have to pay for Pinnacle/Colgan's incompetence. Our company voluntarily gave up the US Airways Express BOS flying. Delta shouldn't have to pay one penny for that or the associated displacement costs.
I love how you stick up for Delta, considering the fact that Delta's goal is to whipsaw regionals against each other at any cost.

ShyGuy 02-13-2012 09:07 AM
Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1134241)
I love how you stick up for Delta, considering the fact that Delta's goal is to whipsaw regionals against each other at any cost.
From a Delta management point of view, that's their job.

AxialFlow 02-13-2012 09:20 AM
Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1134051)
I hope 9E gets every single last penny from Delta for the training mess we are in, even for Colgan training costs. Maybe some day it will be cheaper for Delta to just do the flying themselves (if it isn't already).
Amen. Maybe one day it will be too much of a pain in the ass for mainline to outsource their flying to dirtbag regional outfits.

ShyGuy 02-13-2012 10:33 AM
Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1134251)
Amen. Maybe one day it will be too much of a pain in the ass for mainline to outsource their flying to dirtbag regional outfits.
Did you just call your employer a dirtbag regional outfit? ;)

lolwut 02-27-2012 10:05 AM
For someone not really in the loop, whats the latest at Pinnacle?

Is the company still asking for paycuts? Have they gotten any? Are they still threatening bankruptcy? Any changes to training bids?

Any other big news / changes from the status quo?


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