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sinsilvia666 02-28-2012 06:21 PM

curious - what does our fearless ceo get paid anyway, twenty bucks says its more then triple any line pilot !

SilverandSore 02-28-2012 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by sinsilvia666 (Post 1142857)
curious - what does our fearless ceo get paid anyway, twenty bucks says its more then triple any line pilot !


If it's so easy, go apply!

whtever 02-28-2012 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by sinsilvia666 (Post 1142857)
curious - what does our fearless ceo get paid anyway, twenty bucks says its more then triple any line pilot !

Fearless? This guy seems to be afraid of everything and for that matter wants to pass that fear along to you. What kind of regional CEO references a biased, doom and gloom article regarding the Regional Airline Industry in a letter to his employees? I guess I missed that section in my management classes and all leadership courses I've ever taken. And yes, of course he's paid well and is looking for more, he wants 5% of your pay, mine, the guy next you, the crew behind you and all those who support our operation. He's using fear and intimidation to take from those fearful employees with his ambiguous emails that he positions as effective communication, give me a break!

Maybe not the best example, but if and when a new President is elected and takes over the problems of the previous administration does he immediately overestimate the current problems, emphasize the negative issues and then proceed cite the numerous articles explaining why the US cannot suceed? Or does he do what he is elected (or hired) to do and think outside the box to provide a workable situation to progress toward success without taking a percentage, through intimidation, vague communication or fear, from each American that did not cause the problem in the first place and has suffered through below average wages, poor work rules and a general disrespect? There are other options, more viable and effective. I've heard those that defend our leader, I use that term loosely, and they are entitled to their opinion, just as I am entitled to mine. Let's hear it all together.... VOTE NO!

sinsilvia666 02-28-2012 11:12 PM

i do find it funny that each company doom/gloom email has the "fwd fwd fwd to all managers and employees" in the header to make sure we see it haha

200Driver 02-29-2012 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 1142866)
If it's so easy, go apply!

I have done "it", been there, and lived "it". "it" isn't so hard, just lucrative.

AxialFlow 02-29-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by SilverandSore (Post 1142866)
If it's so easy, go apply!

I can run the company into Chapter 11 just as well as Sean and Trenary. Hell, I'll even do it for HALF of what's Sean's making!

FlyJSH 02-29-2012 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1143104)
I can run the company into Chapter 11 just as well as Sean and Trenary. Hell, I'll even do it for HALF of what's Sean's making!

And probably half the time :p

airline NooB 03-01-2012 06:38 PM

what causes me concern is reading the leadership bios on the pennacle home page and seeing all the airline-corpses these folks have left in their wake.

It seems like a diabolicly constructed roll-call of execs deliberately recruited from destroyed businesses. I kept expecting to open the next profile and find a photo of Dr. Evil petting Mr. Bigglesworth.

I reckon pilots are the only one who have their backgrounds checked.

aviatorpr 03-01-2012 07:04 PM

Everoyne wants to single out management, what about the board, they're the ones that hire the CEO, and probably have a say in other executive positions as well (ie. CFO). In no way am I defending Trenary/Menke, but these clowns on the board need to be cleaned out as well

airline NooB 03-01-2012 07:35 PM

That is precisely my point.
Its not just one person.
Everybody got hired by somebody.
That "somebody" didnt do much research and isnt very good at holding their employee accountable for performance.
but then again....holding people accountable for their performance is so old fashioned.
Once upon-a-time....if ya failed...ya got fired. and there were no golden parachutes.
That lack of occupational mortality has lead to many leaders feeling a sense of impunity for thier whimsical maneuvers.
But leaders ALWAYS lead. They either lead up...or they lead down.
They get paid either way.
In fact, its almost like being on the other end of the contract. Excellence is irrelevant....its actually a waste of effort to exceed expectations. Do you get paid more for doing a great job? no. Do you get promoted faster if you do a great job? no.
There is no incentive for either end to excell. Nor any true penalty for under-performing.
no lift...no drag. Entropy
Cannot possibly succeed under any realistic (or even wildly hypothetical) business model.
Theres a whole bunch of folks that a lot smarter than me that must have it all figured out and are just waiting to spring the surprise happy-ending on us.
Just in case they are reading this.... ok already....uncle....I give...whats the punch-line?
The suspense is KILLING ME.


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