Age difference in jumpseating
01-09-2012 | 04:38 AM
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About 7 years ago I was flying an RJ. A middle aged UPS captain asked for a ride up front. We of course granted it. Once out on the taxiway the airport was closed for departing traffic and we were told to shut down. For another 1 hour we were beat to death with his complaining about how it was utterly insane that UPS only paid him $225,000.00 a year base pay. After listening to him for much too long I pointed to my new hire FO and said to him "do you have any idea how much she makes?" He said "no" and I told him "about $18,000 base" His response took the cake when he said "Well why would you work here?" and then went on about how expensive his kids private school was. Some guys just don't have a clue.
01-09-2012 | 05:13 AM
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About 7 years ago I was flying an RJ. A middle aged UPS captain asked for a ride up front. We of course granted it. Once out on the taxiway the airport was closed for departing traffic and we were told to shut down. For another 1 hour we were beat to death with his complaining about how it was utterly insane that UPS only paid him $225,000.00 a year base pay. After listening to him for much too long I pointed to my new hire FO and said to him "do you have any idea how much she makes?" He said "no" and I told him "about $18,000 base" His response took the cake when he said "Well why would you work here?" and then went on about how expensive his kids private school was. Some guys just don't have a clue.
Reminds me of a Airways FO who caught a ride on my plane and insisted that his flight kit ride in the cockpit an that we "ask for shortcuts" so he can get there quicker. I told him that hs kit can not ride up front and he was pretty (deleted)
Seems like most issues come from mainline guys jumpseating on regionals.
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01-09-2012 | 06:59 AM
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I've always found the grumpiest captains to ask for the jumpseat from are the younger regional lifers- guys in their later 40's or early 50's or so that have gotten somewhat senior for whatever reason and can't viably move on to a real career job, yet aren't happy with where they are at.
Some personal favorites have been in ASA CRJ-700s... yowza! (to be fair I've run into some real characters at least once at every carrier I've routinely jumped on- Pinnacle, ASA, comair, shuttle america, Delta, and Northwest)
Me- "Hello sir, my name is xxx, I work at Delta, may I catch a ride with you guys today?" (all the usual credentials extended out)
CA- "You aren't going to be riding up front are you?"
Me- "Huh.. uh.... maybe? It could go either way right now"
CA- "I hope not." (shoves credentials back at me)
*crickets
Me- "I appreciate the ride...."
Some people wonder why they can't get hired elsewhere....
Some personal favorites have been in ASA CRJ-700s... yowza! (to be fair I've run into some real characters at least once at every carrier I've routinely jumped on- Pinnacle, ASA, comair, shuttle america, Delta, and Northwest)
Me- "Hello sir, my name is xxx, I work at Delta, may I catch a ride with you guys today?" (all the usual credentials extended out)
CA- "You aren't going to be riding up front are you?"
Me- "Huh.. uh.... maybe? It could go either way right now"
CA- "I hope not." (shoves credentials back at me)
*crickets
Me- "I appreciate the ride...."
Some people wonder why they can't get hired elsewhere....
01-09-2012 | 07:16 AM
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On a United mainline flight in cruise...
55 year old female CA: "So who do you work for?"
Me: "Air Wisconsin."
Her: "Who is that??"
"Umm... We are a regional that has flown code share and partnered with you for 26 years. We do all of your ASE flying."
"Never heard of you."
"Oh."
"I just don't get you regional people. Why would want to work there? Why don't you just apply to United?"
"Are you serious?"
"Yes. I am, why do you work there??"
"You obviously don't have a clue, I can't even respond to you. And if I did, you wouldn't listen to me anyway... wow."
First Officer mouths, "I'm sorry."
55 year old female CA: "So who do you work for?"
Me: "Air Wisconsin."
Her: "Who is that??"
"Umm... We are a regional that has flown code share and partnered with you for 26 years. We do all of your ASE flying."
"Never heard of you."
"Oh."
"I just don't get you regional people. Why would want to work there? Why don't you just apply to United?"
"Are you serious?"
"Yes. I am, why do you work there??"
"You obviously don't have a clue, I can't even respond to you. And if I did, you wouldn't listen to me anyway... wow."
First Officer mouths, "I'm sorry."
01-09-2012 | 07:23 AM
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About 7 years ago I was flying an RJ. A middle aged UPS captain asked for a ride up front. We of course granted it. Once out on the taxiway the airport was closed for departing traffic and we were told to shut down. For another 1 hour we were beat to death with his complaining about how it was utterly insane that UPS only paid him $225,000.00 a year base pay. After listening to him for much too long I pointed to my new hire FO and said to him "do you have any idea how much she makes?" He said "no" and I told him "about $18,000 base" His response took the cake when he said "Well why would you work here?" and then went on about how expensive his kids private school was. Some guys just don't have a clue.
01-09-2012 | 11:15 AM
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I've only ran across one delta captain that was rude. I am assuming he was an IOE captain and the FO for that flight was brand new. He was very disrespectful to the FO.
Riding with me, FO at ASA, it has been all good except one AA pilot. Can't remember if he was an FO or captain. After push back he began eating a footlong sandwich which was right in my face, RJ-200. While taxing he taps me on the shoulder and ask if I could hold his bag of chips for a moment.
Maybe if I had the chance to eat that day between my 6 legs it wouldn't have made me so irritated.
Riding with me, FO at ASA, it has been all good except one AA pilot. Can't remember if he was an FO or captain. After push back he began eating a footlong sandwich which was right in my face, RJ-200. While taxing he taps me on the shoulder and ask if I could hold his bag of chips for a moment.
Maybe if I had the chance to eat that day between my 6 legs it wouldn't have made me so irritated.
01-09-2012 | 11:35 AM
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On a United mainline flight in cruise...
55 year old female CA: "So who do you work for?"
Me: "Air Wisconsin."
Her: "Who is that??"
"Umm... We are a regional that has flown code share and partnered with you for 26 years. We do all of your ASE flying."
"Never heard of you."
"Oh."
"I just don't get you regional people. Why would want to work there? Why don't you just apply to United?"
"Are you serious?"
"Yes. I am, why do you work there??"
"You obviously don't have a clue, I can't even respond to you. And if I did, you wouldn't listen to me anyway... wow."
First Officer mouths, "I'm sorry."
55 year old female CA: "So who do you work for?"
Me: "Air Wisconsin."
Her: "Who is that??"
"Umm... We are a regional that has flown code share and partnered with you for 26 years. We do all of your ASE flying."
"Never heard of you."
"Oh."
"I just don't get you regional people. Why would want to work there? Why don't you just apply to United?"
"Are you serious?"
"Yes. I am, why do you work there??"
"You obviously don't have a clue, I can't even respond to you. And if I did, you wouldn't listen to me anyway... wow."
First Officer mouths, "I'm sorry."
01-09-2012 | 01:09 PM
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Best I ever had was on SWA. They had fuel removed, told a SWA flight that she would have to go and take a later flight and would be on the jumpseat, and they had to deal with the smell of kielbasa and sauerkraut on my breath.
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