Age difference in jumpseating
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From: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Might I suggest a new briefing from the captain:
"Welcome aboard. Since I'll be pilot flying and he'll be pilot monitoring, consider yourself pilot monitoring the pilot monitoring. Because we're working 14 hour days and 7 legs per day, we're going to make a mistake at some point. Perhaps you just might be the person that traps that error and averts the NTSB from having to write those long tedious reports. And of course the local morgue here (insert outstation) is probably over worked and under-staffed as well, so they really don't want to come out and piece body parts together.
I know you really don't know our SOPs but you're obviously a pilot so if you see something wacky, ask. Since I have sleep apnea, am 40 pounds over weight, and my hearing is shot from flying Convairs for years, I am likely not on my A game. Also, because this person next to me is 30 years my junior, he will be unwilling to question me for any reason or speak up if we are going to fly into a mountain. So do it instead. Besides, he slept in the crew lounge last night since 22K a year can't get you living quarters in (insert airline hub here). So the level of alertness in this cockpit is really crummy. Better yet, even if I don't talk to you or even flat out ignore you - I have irritable bowel syndrome from those years of airport food - just consider yourself part of the team, take the I-pod out of your ears to maintain SA, and help keep us alive and out of trouble.
"Welcome aboard. Since I'll be pilot flying and he'll be pilot monitoring, consider yourself pilot monitoring the pilot monitoring. Because we're working 14 hour days and 7 legs per day, we're going to make a mistake at some point. Perhaps you just might be the person that traps that error and averts the NTSB from having to write those long tedious reports. And of course the local morgue here (insert outstation) is probably over worked and under-staffed as well, so they really don't want to come out and piece body parts together.
I know you really don't know our SOPs but you're obviously a pilot so if you see something wacky, ask. Since I have sleep apnea, am 40 pounds over weight, and my hearing is shot from flying Convairs for years, I am likely not on my A game. Also, because this person next to me is 30 years my junior, he will be unwilling to question me for any reason or speak up if we are going to fly into a mountain. So do it instead. Besides, he slept in the crew lounge last night since 22K a year can't get you living quarters in (insert airline hub here). So the level of alertness in this cockpit is really crummy. Better yet, even if I don't talk to you or even flat out ignore you - I have irritable bowel syndrome from those years of airport food - just consider yourself part of the team, take the I-pod out of your ears to maintain SA, and help keep us alive and out of trouble.
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2. If you have forgotten your roots so soon and can't say anything positive in the regional forums, stay in the Major's sandbox and play nice...
#46
One that stood out was an AWAC crew that couldn't take a jumpseater. Capt made them put 7-800 lbs of ballasts and the last 20 mins of the flight were flown with spoilers deployed to burn the extra fuel. Couldn't thank them enough!! One time we had a jumpseater, our captain called dispatch to change the required fuel, and de-fueled the airplane. We took a delay but it was worth getting somebody home after a long trip. Be nice to others and it'll come back to you.
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I commute on Shuttle America a lot. They are some of the nicest pilots I have ever met. Keep it up.
Rode on a UAL 75 the other day and the CA must not have slept very well. He didn't seem too happy that morning, and barely said a word to me. Guess what? I still got to my destination.
Everybody lives a different life. Some people are mean, some people are nice, some people are dealing with issues at home, some people have ego's that barely fit in the cockpit, etc. No need to get all butthurt because they don't roll out the red carpet. Say "Please" and "Thank You" and you won't have any issues.
Rode on a UAL 75 the other day and the CA must not have slept very well. He didn't seem too happy that morning, and barely said a word to me. Guess what? I still got to my destination.
Everybody lives a different life. Some people are mean, some people are nice, some people are dealing with issues at home, some people have ego's that barely fit in the cockpit, etc. No need to get all butthurt because they don't roll out the red carpet. Say "Please" and "Thank You" and you won't have any issues.
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I think I may have come across as rude at some point or another, but keep in mind it may be from a number of other factors. Don't take it personal if the Captain isn't too friendly - He or she may just be having a bad day. I commute and welcome all other commuters in the JS as long as they didn't have mexican food the night before. 
Not to give out any details as to not offend the CA, but I sat on a JS for 3 hours listening to a mainline CA talk about his $100,000 motor home - How nice it was, what color it was, how big his plasma TV was in there and it just kept going on and on. When there was a break in the conversation the FO, who apparently has heard enough about the motor home over the course of the trip would pipe in and ask random "How are things at your airline" question. Before I could answer the CA, who you could tell was clueless as hell, would pipe in about "Did I tell you about the grill I bought for the motor home??". And then we'd hear about the grill for his motor home.
The best part came when he said his daughter, 17 years old, would take her friends out there to the campsite to "sing campfire songs and roast marshmallows, and play the guitar and just had a good ol' time!" When he said that the FO and I shared the same "That ain't what your daughter is doing out there, sir" glance.

Not to give out any details as to not offend the CA, but I sat on a JS for 3 hours listening to a mainline CA talk about his $100,000 motor home - How nice it was, what color it was, how big his plasma TV was in there and it just kept going on and on. When there was a break in the conversation the FO, who apparently has heard enough about the motor home over the course of the trip would pipe in and ask random "How are things at your airline" question. Before I could answer the CA, who you could tell was clueless as hell, would pipe in about "Did I tell you about the grill I bought for the motor home??". And then we'd hear about the grill for his motor home.
The best part came when he said his daughter, 17 years old, would take her friends out there to the campsite to "sing campfire songs and roast marshmallows, and play the guitar and just had a good ol' time!" When he said that the FO and I shared the same "That ain't what your daughter is doing out there, sir" glance.
#50
Yep UAL was famous for hiring women and miniorities with virtually no time in the 80's due to a concent decree. My cousin was a USCG C-130 driver academy grad had thousands of hrs flying in Alaska and when he applied to UAL during this period he didn't even get a response but I saw they hired one woman out of riddle with around 600 hrs no turbine time and put her sideways in the DC-10. Doesnt surprise me this Capt was clueless.
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