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Ellen 10-14-2006 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 69303)
You still haven't told us what the only companies that will still be in business in the near future are Ellen. I for one, await your wisdom.


In addition, wisdom comes to those who study, learn, make mistakes, and learn from those mistakes.

Hit the books freezingflyboy. (Like the others have on this site)

freezingflyboy 10-14-2006 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 69346)
I never said I would tell you WHAT companies would still be in business. I said there are about 4-5 companies that I would work for. I do not quite understand your animosity or your derivation of my words. However, it is apparent that you are a follower vs. a leader.

I think of myself as more of a sniffer...cause i can smell your BS a mile away.

mccube5 10-14-2006 08:30 PM

I really don't understand how his comments would allow you to draw that he's a follower or even whether or now he would be a leader. I agree he came back like an @ss trying to call you out, but you kind of took it in another direction.

Freezingflyboy, let's be realistic, can anyone guarantee that comair will be out of business soon? Absolutely not, it sure doesn't look good though. And you have to agree that with things the way they are right now there will probably be one or two more on their way out also, but we can't be sure of such a thing because, well we just simply can't.

STILL GROUNDED 10-15-2006 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 69294)
AA will begin Recalling their pilots this Jan. So there will be movement.

Yeah, at 10 a month you'll you should be able to upgrade to RJ capt by 2025.

4th & Goal 10-15-2006 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by cybourg10 (Post 69091)
Which one would you pick? I live in DFW so Eagle would be nice but no guarantee I could get based there right out of class. Which company looks better for a 21 yr old FO in your opinion?

Try to find out how long until Capt upgrade. Either company will do. Your goal is to get your PIC time and get out. Good luck in your decision.

4th & Goal 10-15-2006 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 69294)
AA will begin Recalling their pilots this Jan. So there will be movement.

10 pilots per month is hardly movement.

swaayze 10-15-2006 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by 4th & Goal (Post 69412)
10 pilots per month is hardly movement.

Well, compared to the zero people recalled (permanently) there in the last 5 years I'd say it's a great start. And I'd expect it to accelerate from 10/mo with everyone recalled in about 3 years max (high productivity contract modifications notwithstanding).

Jeez, it's pretty bad when I am the optomist around here.:confused:

4th & Goal 10-15-2006 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by swaayze (Post 69428)
Well, compared to the zero people recalled (permanently) there in the last 5 years I'd say it's a great start. And I'd expect it to accelerate from 10/mo with everyone recalled in about 3 years max (high productivity contract modifications notwithstanding).

Jeez, it's pretty bad when I am the optomist around here.:confused:

I hope you are right. I have a few AA pilot friends on furlough. I wish you all the best.:D

JetJock16 10-15-2006 12:52 PM

The numbers are simple guys/girls. 30 + % of the airline industry is within 5 years of 60, with Northwest & American having the largest percentages of those pilots. That means that within the next few years, as they start to retire, the conditions will dramatically improve at Eagle as well as everywhere else. American has 12K + pilots so imagine if 30% of those pilots retire in the next 5 years. That’s 3,600 pilots that will retire, subtract the 2,800 on furlough and that's a positive 800 pilots needed if they don't grow at all. And, I wonder how many of the 2800 will actually return? Mark my words; in the next 5 years the majors will be dropping there mins because of the lack of qualified pilots and the regionals will be dropping their mins to CPL hours. Upgrade will be quick at the regionals and movement to the majors will be at all time record. The only problem is if you get in at the end of the push to the majors, then upgrade will go back to 6+ years at the regionals and 12+ at the majors because of the youth. There are 120,000+ airline pilots in the industry and an estimated 36,000 of them will be retiring.

These are impressive numbers and if anyone feels that I am in error then please prove it. I have done the research and the numbers are as accurate as an estimate can be.

Good Luck All!

RJ Pilot 10-15-2006 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by swaayze (Post 69428)
Jeez, it's pretty bad when I am the optomist around here.:confused:

I hear you bro.Things will turn around for us AE pretty soon. ;)


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