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afterburn81 01-20-2012 04:56 PM

I read these types of threads from time to time. I'm just trying to get on the same level as everyone else and understand where you are coming from. We everyone refers to "These People", who are we talking about? Is it the union pushing for this or is it management? I can't imagine why any company would want this. This keeps the payroll super high with mega senior guys doing practically nothing. Not the ideal employee as far as the bean counters are concerned. We all know that if lots of guys started retiring due to old age, there are butt loads of new hire pilots ready to back fill the line and plenty of qualified guys to upgrade. This would ultimately lower costs right?

Unions have no clout in this industry so I can't imagine they will get the job done even if they are pushing for it.

Guess I'm a little confused.

fullflank 01-20-2012 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 1120142)
I read these types of threads from time to time. I'm just trying to get on the same level as everyone else and understand where you are coming from. We everyone refers to "These People", who are we talking about? Is it the union pushing for this or is it management? I can't imagine why any company would want this. This keeps the payroll super high with mega senior guys doing practically nothing. Not the ideal employee as far as the bean counters are concerned. We all know that if lots of guys started retiring due to old age, there are butt loads of new hire pilots ready to back fill the line and plenty of qualified guys to upgrade. This would ultimately lower costs right?

Unions have no clout in this industry so I can't imagine they will get the job done even if they are pushing for it.

Guess I'm a little confused.

Age has nothing to do with "sitting around doing nothing". If a 5th year captain was number one on the list, he would have that same great schedule. I think companies would be happy to pay top payscale instead of training cost. I read (dont know who accurate this is) that every 1 retirement at AA triggers 6 training events. Thats alot of doubt.

TopNotch 01-20-2012 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by selcal (Post 1120095)
Well, at ASA I heard a senior capt talking about how his AME asked if he wanted to be a part of some test for age 67. Not flying past 65, as that is the rule, but just extra monitoring of his health I guess. He of course was exited.

This is similar to what I heard. However, it was Delta pilots.

skyxbomb 01-20-2012 07:17 PM

Not going to happen... Stop panicking lol not sure if we're going to have a shortage anyway with all these flight reductions and mergers. At least not at the major levels. Hopefully regional airlines will go away along with the pilot wages that are equivalent to a practical joke.

Fishfreighter 01-20-2012 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jamers (Post 1120137)
The Baby-Boomers ruined everything in general.

Especially parenthood.

Thedude 01-20-2012 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 1120138)
Here's a thought: Retire when you feel like it.

Unfortunately in aviation it ain't that simple.
I just flew with a late 50s guy that NEEDS to retire. It was an ordeal on every leg but yet he thinks every leg was just peachy.

skyxbomb 01-20-2012 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1120242)
Unfortunately in aviation it ain't that simple.
I just flew with a late 50s guy that NEEDS to retire. It was an ordeal on every leg but yet he thinks every leg was just peachy.

Haha I agree with you. Yet there are FEW Capts in their 30's that I think they should do aviation a favor and leave. Felt like I'm the one doing twice the work and half the pay and keeping HIM in check so I don't get a violation or God forbid cause accident and hurt others.

sinsilvia666 01-20-2012 11:24 PM

"fly till u die" tattooed on your face.

hockeypilot44 01-21-2012 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1120063)
I had a long chat with a 747 FO at Delta. From what he has seen. Most guy are staying til about 63 before calling it quits. Even if the age 67 rule does pass, I highly doubt most will stay past 65.

This is false. Most are staying until they are 65. The ones leaving early are not leaving by choice (usually medical problems).

johnso29 01-21-2012 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1120285)
This is false. Most are staying until they are 65. The ones leaving early are not leaving by choice (usually medical problems).

Really? That's a pretty inaccurate statement considering we aren't even 5 years into age 65 yet. Not to mention the 163 guys that voluntarily retired before Age 65 between last August & Jan 1st. ;)


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