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Old 01-26-2012, 07:52 AM
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UAL Investor Update shows 5 CRJ-700s leaving the fleet in 4th qtr 2012. Who is losing that flying? Mesa? Just curious. Also, 2 ERJs and 4 CRJ-200s leaving this year with nothing added. Net loss 11 jets.

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Well, god knows if UAX is losing ERJ's, Trans-States will find a way to get in on that. The incredible shrinking airline.
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UAL Investor Update shows 5 CRJ-700s leaving the fleet in 4th qtr 2012. Who is losing that flying? Mesa? Just curious. Also, 2 ERJs and 4 CRJ-200s leaving this year with nothing added. Net loss 11 jets.

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Yes, Mesa for the 5 700s. UAL has been known to resign or extend last minute so we'll see what happens.
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From the 2010 Annual Report. It seems UAL is forecasting a drop of roughly $100M/yr in the amount they pay for CPAs by "rapidly" reducing the fleet.

Regional Capacity Purchase Agreements
The Company has capacity purchase agreements (“CPAs”) with certain regional carriers. We purchase all of
the capacity from the flights covered by the CPA at a negotiated price. In exchange for the regional carriers’
operation of the flights and performance of other obligations under the CPAs, we have agreed to pay the regional
carrier a pre-determined rate, subject to annual inflation adjustments (capped at 3%), for each block hour flown
(the hours from gate departure to gate arrival) and to reimburse the regional carrier for various pass-through
expenses (with no margin or mark-up) related to the flights, including aviation insurance, property taxes,
international navigation fees, depreciation (primarily aircraft-related), landing fees and certain maintenance
expenses. Under the CPAs, we are responsible for the cost of providing fuel for all flights and for paying aircraft
rent for all of the aircraft covered by the CPAs. Generally, the CPAs contain incentive bonus and rebate
provisions based upon each regional carrier’s operational performance. United’s and Continental’s CPAs are for
295 and 252 regional aircraft, respectively, and the United and Continental CPAs have terms expiring through
2024 and 2021, respectively. Aircraft operated under CPAs include aircraft leased directly from the regional
carriers and those leased from third party lessors and operated by the regional carriers.
Our future commitments under our CPAs are dependent on numerous variables, and are therefore difficult to
predict. The most important of these variables is the number of scheduled block hours. Although we are not
required to purchase a minimum number of block hours under certain of our CPAs, we have set forth below
estimates of our future payments under the CPAs based on our assumptions. Continental’s estimates of its future
payments under all of the CPAs do not include the portion of the underlying obligation for any aircraft leased to
ExpressJet or deemed to be leased from other regional carriers and facility rent that are disclosed as part of
aircraft and nonaircraft operating leases. For purposes of calculating these estimates, we have assumed (1) the
number of block hours flown is based on our anticipated level of flight activity or at any contractual minimum
utilization levels if applicable, (2) that we will reduce the fleet as rapidly as contractually allowed under each
CPA,
(3) that aircraft utilization, stage length and load factors will remain constant, (4) that each carrier’s
operational performance will remain at historic levels and (5) that inflation is projected to be between 1.5% and
2.2% per year. Based on these assumptions as of December 31, 2010, our future payments through the end of the
terms of our CPAs are presented in the table below. These amounts exclude variable pass-through costs such as
fuel and landing fees, among others.

(In millions) UAL United Continental


2011 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 1,707 $ 908 $ 799
2012 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,622 840 782
2013 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,557 791 766
2014 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,403 677 726
2015 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,286 619 667
After 2015 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,080 1,550 2,530
$11,655 $5,385 $6,270

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jsled, I hope that pans out for all of our sakes. Regardless, lock it down the JCBA!
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