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Old 10-15-2006 | 04:27 PM
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Ok so from what I understand the Pilots and Mgmt. have until tomorrow Mon. 10/16 to come to an agreement or the judge renders his ruling.... So anyone heard anything? Have negotiations in MSP stopped yet? and any result or is there going to be a ruling tomorrow?
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Old 10-15-2006 | 07:13 PM
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As far as I understand tommorrow is a big day for mesaba. Even if there are labor concessions I do not see how they will be able to get out of the hole they are in. Maybe if daddy NWA gives them some CRJ's in time they can recover, but I hope the 51 planes for bid show up on PNCL's property.. I cant see how that would be a bad thing for us FO's on the bottom of the sen list..
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Old 10-15-2006 | 07:29 PM
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how does a company that operates on a fee for departure basis get into the red so bad?

i can understand why majors go bankrupt, selling tickets for less than their what it costs to operate.

but regionals dont sell their own tickets? unless they have all senior pilots or the planes are just cursed with maintenance than how can they really go bankrupt so bad?
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Old 10-15-2006 | 07:43 PM
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I will say that if we do get anymore aircraft it would create some good movement again.... Im guessing that getting those 15 back would create about 70 upgrades so that would proably make CA go pretty junior once again.... If we got all 51 I'm guessing that would bring back street upgrades...
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Old 10-16-2006 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u
how does a company that operates on a fee for departure basis get into the red so bad?

i can understand why majors go bankrupt, selling tickets for less than their what it costs to operate.

but regionals dont sell their own tickets? unless they have all senior pilots or the planes are just cursed with maintenance than how can they really go bankrupt so bad?

From my understanding, Mesaba is owned by MAIR Holdings, Inc. MAIR has been siphoning off the profits from Mesaba for some years now.
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Old 10-16-2006 | 01:15 PM
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Judge Rules Mesaba Can Reject Contracts
By CHRIS WILLIAMS , 10.16.2006, 04:41 PM

A bankruptcy judge ruled on Monday that Mesaba Aviation Inc. can reject its union contracts with workers, a legal step toward a showdown that could result in a strike this week at the Northwest Airlines Corp. feeder.

Judge Gregory Kishel's ruling said Mesaba can impose terms on Wednesday, a day after he's scheduled to hear the airline's request for an injunction against a strike.

Mesaba has said it will impose terms on its 1,140 pilots, mechanics and flight attendants if given the legal right to do so. Unions have said they will strike rather than accept the proposed work rule changes and pay cuts.

Mesaba flies to nearly 100 cities in America and Canada, funneling passengers to Northwest's hubs in Minneapolis, Detroit and Memphis, Tenn. It's the only air carrier serving some of those cities.



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Old 10-16-2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u
how does a company that operates on a fee for departure basis get into the red so bad?

i can understand why majors go bankrupt, selling tickets for less than their what it costs to operate.

but regionals dont sell their own tickets? unless they have all senior pilots or the planes are just cursed with maintenance than how can they really go bankrupt so bad?
Besides the lion's share of profits that are upstreamed to MAIR each month, you have to remember that Mesaba's cost structure is built around an operation that utilizes 49 Saabs and 36 Avro's. When NWA pulled the Avro's (we are down to 5 in November) our cost structure stayed the same and so now there are a lot less dollars coming in to cover that.

Tomorrow we will see what that pasty white umpa-lumpa of a judge has in store for us in terms of strike ability. Based on his record, I am almost certain he will grant the injunction.

There are so many people leaving this place right now, I can't believe the front door hasn't fallen off the hinges. It's really too bad. Mesaba used to be a great place to hang one's hat. Now it seems like the last place to hang it. Just punctuates the fact that life can change in the blink of an eye for a regional pilot...or mechanic or flight attendant for that matter.

If ALPA caves on this deal, I will vomit. No matter how much lipstick you put on that pig, it's still a pig.
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