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IBPilot 02-04-2012 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by flapsfail (Post 1129140)
Is this in fact a new LOA? If so, why weren't we made aware of it? I'm so sick and tired of this crap. What did we get in return? Is this in the best interest of the group?

Go team alpa...

I love seeing my money hard at work, way to go mesabuh.

To add to this, back pre-TA, the XJ union was the "creme of the crop" in both balls and communication according to 100% of XJ pilots and 30-40% of 9e pilots and 100% of Colgan pilots. Hence why they won most positions in the elections post-TA. Just wondering if the opinions have changed more toward agreeing with the 9e minority "we told ya so" crowd....seems like there is as much complaining now, if not more, than pre-merger.

IBPilot 02-04-2012 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1129202)
To answer your last question, because ALPA is full of spineless people or those trying to make it to ALPA National.

no, spineless is spreading BS know-it-all economic info as fact from an "anonymous" name on a public forum......

ShyGuy 02-04-2012 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1129257)
no, spineless is spreading BS know-it-all economic info as fact from an "anonymous" name on a public forum......

I didn't spread anything incorrect about the upcoming bankruptcy. It's just a matter of time, and even Menke has hinted at it.

IBPilot 02-04-2012 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1129275)
I didn't spread anything incorrect about the upcoming bankruptcy. It's just a matter of time, and even Menke has hinted at it.

oh what short selective memory you have. See you closed thread you titled "the latest Pinnacle Fact until the mods changed it.....

you yourself said....
The latest Pinnacle RUMOR!!...
9E is looking to divest its ATL 900s and the entire Colgan operation. There's a lot going on behind the scenes right now with management and those who have signed NDAs.

ShyGuy 02-04-2012 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1129280)
oh what short selective memory you have. See you closed thread you titled "the latest Pinnacle Fact until the mods changed it.....

you yourself said....
The latest Pinnacle RUMOR!!...
9E is looking to divest its ATL 900s and the entire Colgan operation. There's a lot going on behind the scenes right now with management and those who have signed NDAs.

That wasn't a rumor, that was fact published in the Commerical Appeal, a local MEM newspaper. And no, I never closed any thread, thank your moderators for that.

IBPilot 02-04-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1129284)
That wasn't a rumor, that was fact published in the Commerical Appeal, a local MEM newspaper. And no, I never closed any thread, thank your moderators for that.

Sorry I left out the R. Of course you didn't close your own thread.

IBPilot 02-04-2012 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1129284)
That wasn't a rumor, that was fact published in the Commerical Appeal, a local MEM newspaper. And no, I never closed any thread, thank your moderators for that.

I live in MEM and subscribe to the CA. Show me where it says that as fact. And if you indeed saw it there, why not publish your source rather than imply "you heard it here first folks! Looked into my crystal ball" Journalists have a word for that.....Plagiarism
a search through my hard copies and search on the CA website have not mentioned the word "divesting" anything by Pinnacle, much less the Colgan side and 900.

shimmydamp 02-04-2012 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 1129105)
Prior to this LOA when you worked on a scheduled day off, you got 200% pay and a comp day.

I can tell you this is untrue. Scheduling may have given it to you, but it wasn't due to you in the contract. I ran into this scenario myself and one of the union reps in SOC explained to me that in the contract a junior assignment is an extra assignment, not just a delayed return, so they had to work an LOA for this situation.

Back to ShyGuy...

Flitestar 02-04-2012 04:15 PM

Guys this is old news. I know a crewmember who found out the MEC vice chair was sending emails to Crew Scheduling behind the pilot groups back with his interpretation of a section of our CBA, taking the company's side on it. He didn't even bother to tell the pilot group about it, just decided it was ok for the company to interpret it their way and sent the email authorizing it, even though our CBA specifically says they can't do it their way...

I think the crewmember is still trying to get a copy of the email from anybody. Everybody refuses to release it. This happened about 3 months ago...

Cruise 02-04-2012 05:18 PM

OMG!!!!! It's a conspiracy!!! The MEC must be working to destroy the lives of the pilots they represent. Yeah, that's it. What a bunch of friggin' morons around here.....

Run Chicken Little, Run!!!!


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