Apparently the definition of a junior assignment has been changed. LOA 21 states that if a pilot has to work into their say off due to weather or other events outside of the company’s control, that pilot is no being junior assigned. That pilot will receive 150% pay (Instead of 200%) for the flights worked on their day off and no compensatory day. Prior to this LOA when you worked on a scheduled day off, you got 200% pay and a comp day.

So when the company cancels your flight out of Toronto and makes you spend the night there and work on your scheduled day off, you are not being junior manned. According to scheduling, “Why would you receive a comp day just because you worked on one of your days off?”

Why would ALPA agree to this?

 

Did this happen to you? I don't really understand the situation, but it sounds like you're owed 200% and a comp day.

 

It did happen to me, and I was told I would receive 200% and a comp day. Then when I checked my credit for the end of January, I saw that they removed the junior man code and the credit. After a 2-hour conversation, I was directed towards LOA 21 that states if you are extended into your day off for reasons beyond the control o the company, you are not being junior manned.

 

Is this in fact a new LOA? If so, why weren't we made aware of it? I'm so sick and tired of this crap. What did we get in return? Is this in the best interest of the group?

Go team alpa...

I love seeing my money hard at work, way to go mesabuh.

 

Was your flight back to base cancelled?

I'm pretty sure the intent of the LOA is to cover delays but not a flight cancellation.

 

It was cancelled because of weather.

 

The above is correct. At an outstation, when your flight is suppose to come back but cancels due to Wx, Mx, or ATC, then you still "owe" the company the return portion back to base. You will be put in rest and then operate after the rest period. If that ends up going into your day off, the company and ALPA's view is that it was not a re-assignment, it's a continuation of your original assignment and you owe it to them. Personally, I think it's BS. A day off is still a day off. In this case, you should have the option to be released out of base, and go home, while they fly someone on reserve into that city and have them operate it the next day. Or have a reserve pilot deadhead the next day on the first flight from base to your city where the plane is, and then operate back. But that's not what happens.

To answer your last question, because ALPA is full of spineless people or those trying to make it to ALPA National.

 

Any LOA that changes any wording or definition in your CBA requires a pilot group vote before they can implement the changes!

 

No it doesn't. This LOA was done between the union ALPA and management, with no vote by the pilot group. We the pilots vote in our ALPA members and then hope they represent our interests. Many times, they don't.

 

Yeah, that's it. Good thing guys like you are around to keep things in check.
Thanks for another ignorant statement among the many ignorant statements from blowhards on these silly message boards.