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Peeinginthesink 02-11-2012 09:59 PM

Also: AA DOES care about service. They may cancel at a hair's whisper, but the actual inflight service, which is a direct representation of the vendor corporation, ALWAYS MATTERS. And Compass is the only player on the field that consistently delivers.

CyFo145 02-11-2012 10:26 PM

Your so sure about cz, but you forget how much aa loves tsa, they do have a history, to the tune of aa connex with 145's at tsa, which aa was fed up with its poor quality and constant FAA fines/grounding of aircraft and got dropped from aa. You mean that great quality? Its known aa always liked chq and recently have really good relations with rah. They loved using chq as a bargaining chip, much to the chagrin of the chq pilot roup.

Peeinginthesink 02-11-2012 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by CyFo145 (Post 1133624)
Your so sure about cz, but you forget how much aa loves tsa, they do have a history, to the tune of aa connex with 145's at tsa, which aa was fed up with its poor quality and constant FAA fines/grounding of aircraft and got dropped from aa. You mean that great quality? Its known aa always liked chq and recently have really good relations with rah. They loved using chq as a bargaining chip, much to the chagrin of the chq pilot roup.

You're missing the point: CPZ is not TSA.

There are absolutely zero similarities between the two, besides the scumbag holding company that owns them.

Don't for a second think that grudges will prevent a business venture in this ****ty industry.

Wake up.

PilotJ3 02-12-2012 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Peeinginthesink (Post 1133618)
Also: AA DOES care about service. They may cancel at a hair's whisper, but the actual inflight service, which is a direct representation of the vendor corporation, ALWAYS MATTERS. And Compass is the only player on the field that consistently delivers.

Have u flew as a passenger in a AA flight?? What about in eagle??

I rather be in a eagle flight with a better FA service that a grumpy grandma. Just saying that by personal experience...AA don't care about the service.

AMR workforce morale is very low, because AMR continues to screw everyone, so service is degraded and they don't care.

A company that cares about service, don't overbook their flights, like almost any AA and Eagle and then tell the passengers "ohhh sorry, here you go $500 and a food voucher, and btw we rebook you in the next flight which is also oversold". Why? Because AMR, AA and Eagle still in the 70's.

And before Compass gets AMR flying, Republic will be flying those 175s long time ago.

eaglefly 02-12-2012 01:49 AM

AE will remain, but will be smaller to make room for whipsaw carriers. They keep more of their flying, the cheaper they're willing to fly it.

Peeinginthesink 02-12-2012 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1133633)
Have u flew as a passenger in a AA flight?? What about in eagle??

I rather be in a eagle flight with a better FA service that a grumpy grandma. Just saying that by personal experience...AA don't care about the service.

AMR workforce morale is very low, because AMR continues to screw everyone, so service is degraded and they don't care.

A company that cares about service, don't overbook their flights, like almost any AA and Eagle and then tell the passengers "ohhh sorry, here you go $500 and a food voucher, and btw we rebook you in the next flight which is also oversold". Why? Because AMR, AA and Eagle still in the 70's.

And before Compass gets AMR flying, Republic will be flying those 175s long time ago.

That was an extremely poorly written response, but I understand your points. That being said; you are incorrect. AA cares about passenger service. The fact that they have to honor the seniority of 30+ year FAs is just the way it is. If they could dump all the grannies for younger skin they would. But they can't. It has nothing to do with how much they value their front line image.

And no, RAH will not get the birds before Compass. RAH is a ****ing mess, and their product shows it.

CyFo145 02-12-2012 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by Peeinginthesink (Post 1133641)
That was an extremely poorly written response, but I understand your points. That being said; you are incorrect. AA cares about passenger service. The fact that they have to honor the seniority of 30+ year FAs is just the way it is. If they could dump all the grannies for younger skin they would. But they can't. It has nothing to do with how much they value their front line image.

And no, RAH will not get the birds before Compass. RAH is a ****ing mess, and their product shows it.

yeah rah is such a ****ing mess that delta doubled their flying, because your stunning Co, tsa, did a stellar job failing to secure AC for the cz unit that they gave the flying to S5. Rah has a lot of in house cleaning to do to get a contract intact, but one thing rah does have strength beyond most other regionals, is able to deliver satisfactory reliable product to their partners and maintaining relatively good relations with them, which are more vast than most. But in the end, were talking about regionals here, all collectively part of the eviscerating of good paying pilot jobs. So please dispense with your sad cheerleading to cz, which is equally part of contributing to the stain in the airline industry in the form of regionals.

PilotJ3 02-12-2012 03:56 AM



Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1133633)
Have u flew as a passenger in a AA flight?? What about in eagle??

I rather be in a eagle flight with a better FA service that a grumpy grandma. Just saying that by personal experience...AA don't care about the service.

AMR workforce morale is very low, because AMR continues to screw everyone, so service is degraded and they don't care.

A company that cares about service, don't overbook their flights, like almost any AA and Eagle and then tell the passengers "ohhh sorry, here you go $500 and a food voucher, and btw we rebook you in the next flight which is also oversold". Why? Because AMR, AA and Eagle still in the 70's.

And before Compass gets AMR flying, Republic will be flying those 175s long time ago.

That was an extremely poorly written response, but I understand your points. That being said; you are incorrect. AA cares about passenger service. The fact that they have to honor the seniority of 30+ year FAs is just the way it is. If they could dump all the grannies for younger skin they would. But they can't. It has nothing to do with how much they value their front line image.

And no, RAH will not get the birds before Compass. RAH is a ****ing mess, and their product shows it.
You just don't get it. We (at eagle) do have +25yr FA. I'm not telling that AA FAs are old. I'm telling their service is bad, like the rampers, gate agents, etc. Also in the eagle side, but I rather go eagle than AA.

Unions don't care about service neither, just money and benefits (which is not bad). AMR, AA and Eagle don't care about service.

And the 175 won't be flying in base of service, will be based in the lower bid, so RAH will get it.

LostInPA 02-12-2012 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by CyFo145 (Post 1133645)
tsa, did a stellar job failing to secure AC for the cz unit that they gave the flying to S5.

Your unfamiliarity with the facts of what happened is noted. "Delta" was unable to acquire the additional aircraft, according to management. As there were no other E170's on the market, obviously, there were no more to acquire for CPZ to fly.

Regarding S5, they were fortunate to be able to place the Frontier E170's back into the DL system. S5 was going to get the flying anyway as they already had the aircraft. Nothing was awarded to them that CPZ or anyone else was supposed to have done.

The Chow 02-12-2012 05:56 AM

Regional vs. Regional crime
 
You guys kill me. My sh**ty regional is better than yours. The regionals will never raise the bar so long as one ALPA carrier can undercut another ALPA carrier. Then take into account the regionals with different unions or no union and now you start seeing the picture. Being senior at a regional is a death nail. The moment your pilot group has longevity another group will be used against you. Throw in SJS and code share at the majors and I wonder if the majors will ever hire.

That is all for now.
You may return to your regional is better than mine because you work there.

TC


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