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Old 03-03-2012 | 05:40 AM
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"Negotiations Update
No negotiations have taken place this week because the company has made a permanent 5% wage cut a precondition to further discussions. We are not willing to agree to that precondition because none of the financial data we have reviewed supports it. We continue to be willing to meaningfully address our company’s challenges and remain available to meet at any time, but no future talks are currently scheduled."

Ok folks there it is. The union is calling the bluff and it looks like we may not even vote. So one of two things will happen: SM will file ch. 11 or we're in the clear. No more vote talk, it's now time to see the company's hand.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
"Negotiations Update
No negotiations have taken place this week because the company has made a permanent 5% wage cut a precondition to further discussions. We are not willing to agree to that precondition because none of the financial data we have reviewed supports it. We continue to be willing to meaningfully address our company’s challenges and remain available to meet at any time, but no future talks are currently scheduled."

Ok folks there it is. The union is calling the bluff and it looks like we may not even vote. So one of two things will happen: SM will file ch. 11 or we're in the clear. No more vote talk, it's now time to see the company's hand.
The issue of pay was never going to be the precipitating factor in whether or not PCL files for CH 11. The issue is and always was due to management's failure to negotiate a favorable (for PCL) contract with Continental. This is all just a very poorly orchestrated shamruptcy. +1 for ALPA
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Old 03-03-2012 | 06:05 AM
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Glad to hear guys!
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Old 03-03-2012 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
The issue of pay was never going to be the precipitating factor in whether or not PCL files for CH 11.
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Going after employee pay that is already low is a tacit admission of management incompetence. They have no idea what to do; so they decide the optimal way to cut costs is to have their employees subsidize the operation....

btw, I've seen this movie before---if the company is going to go bankrupt, it will do so regardless of pilot pay..i.e. pilot pay will not push a company into bankruptcy any more than it can keep a company out of bankruptcy. If you cut pay now, you are just lowering the starting point for your "future" pay cuts if the company actually does go bankrupt.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 06:48 AM
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5% up front as a precondition? Funny. There's no guarantee that if you give them their 5% that the further negotiations will yield anything meaningful.....keep holding the line.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 08:18 AM
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5% precondition, they can go shuvit.....glad to see our union held that line hard !
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Old 03-03-2012 | 08:20 AM
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We don't know half the story to this messs. I'm still putting my money on a BK. I've heard the company really does want to avoid it but I'm not buying it. They have some plan they are working on and I'm sure the end result won't be good for most of us.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 08:25 AM
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So they are with holding the 4Q results because why? Hmmmm....(rubs chin)
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Old 03-03-2012 | 11:33 AM
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Heard ASA is going to be taking over Pinnacles 900 routes....... just what I heard from someone at ASA. I can see it happening. Pref bid coming out end of April will show this.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by shamrok
Heard ASA is going to be taking over Pinnacles 900 routes....... just what I heard from someone at ASA. I can see it happening. Pref bid coming out end of April will show this.
So most likely the planes will end up in JFK or DTW after all? I have heard that rumor for awhile now...
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