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PCLCREW 03-18-2012 03:55 AM



Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1153052)
Well isn't it income? I pack food and rarely spend anything on the road.


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1153075)
I bring all my food, its same food I would eat if not working. I love per diem, its TAX FREE extra pay =).

If what you say is true, we should be negotiating $1.70 an hour flight pay and $30 per hour perdiem.

Perdiem is NOT PAY! If you want to eat PBandJ three times a day while at work, well, good for you. Just think how much you would make if you didn't eat while on a trip. :rolleyes:

I prefer to eat real meals, and perdiem offsets the added cost of eating on the road. Period. Counting it as pay only plays into management's hand. :mad:
Thank you sir.

Luv2Rotate 03-18-2012 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1153651)
If what you say is true, we should be negotiating $1.70 an hour flight pay and $30 per hour perdiem.

Perdiem is NOT PAY! If you want to eat PBandJ three times a day while at work, well, good for you. Just think how much you would make if you didn't eat while on a trip. :rolleyes:

I prefer to eat real meals, and perdiem offsets the added cost of eating on the road. Period. Counting it as pay only plays into management's hand. :mad:

I do eat real meals. I prepare steak and brown rice, chicken with sundried tomatoes and onions, raw almonds, soups and some tuna fish. Usually, I prepare 2-3 good dinner meals prior to a trip along with simple lunches ie turkey and flat bread sandwiches. Sorry, no PB&J's with me.

flyingreasemnky 03-18-2012 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1152947)
You have been at Colgan sine before the contract right? Wasn't your first year pay somewhere in the 19 dollar range? Say you made 22/hr....that's 1,450 hours. I know you didn't have soft pay like that.

You said high 80 hour lines......
90 hour lines = 1,080hrs/year
32,000/1,080= 29.62

You made 29.62 first year at Colgan? Your numbers don't add up.

He's not lying, I made more than that last year and that was with 2 months pre-contract. I spent about 4 months on reserve, than mix between bottom line holder and build-ups. With junior assignments, extensions, and all the crap they did to me my average credit after the contract took affect was 120-140 hours till about Sep-Oct than around 100-110 after that. Per diem was an extra 7,000 roughly so deposited in my bank account was just about 40k (the places we go, you can never go through the entire daily per diem so it did add up as extra money).

2StgTurbine 03-18-2012 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 1153657)
Guy, we are talking about pilots here. Not sure what you were actually doing for Colgan but that's not a typical salary for any first year regional pilot.

I don't know what to tell you except if I was going to lie about how much I made, I wouldn't come up with $30,000 to impress anonymous internet posters. First year pay was $25.92 and there was lots of inefficient scheduling and mistakes made that caused monthly credit to go way up. I live in base so I could easily pick up open time and I held a line from day one.

Luv2Rotate 03-18-2012 03:29 PM

There ya have it, 3 different people making around the same amount "30k" on 1st year salary. Why would we lie? Is it impressive? I don't think so, but they're the facts. Sorry to disappoint....

What 03-18-2012 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1153921)
There ya have it, 3 different people making around the same amount "30k" on 1st year salary. Why would we lie? Is it impressive? I don't think so, but they're the facts. Sorry to disappoint....

If you include the perdium I made 34K on 2011 my first year at Eagle, without perdium I made 26K! What is hard for people to believe about the 30K?

Al Czervik 03-18-2012 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1153932)
If you include the perdium I made 34K on 2011 my first year at Eagle, without perdium I made 26K! What is hard for people to believe about the 30K?

I'd say if you started more than 6-7 years ago....you were **** poor 1st year. I stand corrected. Didn't know you made that amount year 1.

brian434 03-18-2012 04:30 PM

For $30,000/YR how many days per week are you gone on average?

What 03-18-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by brian434 (Post 1153941)
For $30,000/YR how many days per week are you gone on average?

Lived in base for most of the year, and I had on average 11 days off a month!

Luv2Rotate 03-18-2012 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by brian434 (Post 1153941)
For $30,000/YR how many days per week are you gone on average?

I average 13-16 days off a month with mid-high 80hr lines.


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