Having an engine failure right at go around is definitely one of the toughest maneuvers we do. You have to be on your game to rapidly spot the condition and keep the aircraft under control. It's hard, but hardly unfair. If I can handle it during my initial newhire training then a captain upgrade with way more experience should be able to deal with it too. Now if it happened that they were never given the opportunity to practice this failure during sims and only saw it for the first time on their checkride, then yeah there'd be an issue. But as far as I'm aware that maneuver is in the syllabus and thus everyone should have had an opportunity to run through that maneuver a few times before being put on the hot seat.

How do you explain how these "experience" Colgan regional turboprop pilots are having so much difficulty with jets when a zero to hero ATP grad with nothing more than Seminole time and an RJ course make it through jets with no problem?

This is the main difference between a training department and a checking department.

At mainline, the emphasis is on training- you'd never see that given to you during a jeopardy situation, but you could see it during a training session to help you keep your chops up.

Reason number 858 why outsourcing needs to end...

Do they have a dedicated club at Pinnacle for flying faster than 250kts like they do if you 410 the CRJ?

This is exactly the way it was at Mesaba.

Having a pilot shoot a CAT II approach, have him see the runway, and call my controls landing. Then, in the flare, taking the runway away, giving an engine failure with fire, and doing a single engine go around. That is unfair for a check ride, that's as close to a dual failure as you can get.

Source? Not surprised by this, just wondering where the information came from...

What if my partner got to practice it once in the sim and I got to watch real good? :confused:

Crap happens. So as a 2007 pilot, I'm suppose to sympathize for a 2008 Colgan pilot who couldn't make it through upgrade training? Too bad. Should have bid for the right seat first and gotten comfortable before bidding the left seat.

According to TOS 3 Qs marked as lease returns up in ALB, on ftweb as well.

351, 354 and 242.

We were in DTW on Thursday dealing with a MX issue at the gate (Fenced XJ 200). The mechanic a 20yr Mesaba guy told us they had been told to get the original engines on the correct airframes, XJ USairways Saabs sitting by 21L by Sunday night. Which he said was probably an impossible time line. Those planes have been parked since Xmas I believe. He figures they want them ready to return ASAP after bankruptcy filing. They will use that to break the leases. Anyone else also hear this from MX in DTW??