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RAH $5000 Signing Bonus
Well you heard it here first, $5000 signing bonus to any FO joining RAH after April 2nd, and $500 to any employee that refers a qualified First Officer...
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PDT did the same thing in 2007 and the union quickly put an end to it citing the fact that it bumped year 1 pay past year 2 pay.
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Hopefully the union has already filed for injunction to prevent the company from changing status quo.
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Originally Posted by HSLD
(Post 1160665)
Hopefully the union has already filed for injunction to prevent the company from changing status quo.
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What are the Sources?
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RAH (and AWAC and a bunch of other regionals) did this back in 2006/2007, right?
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Originally Posted by citation35hf
(Post 1160657)
Well you heard it here first, $5000 signing bonus to any FO joining RAH after April 2nd, and $500 to any employee that refers a qualified First Officer...
Discuss. Ok, I am done crying and cooler heads prevail. If they would have increased their FO pay by $5 it would have cost the company $4,500 on first year per new hire and then include the rest of the pilots who are on property gaining a raise. By offering $5,000 sign inn bonus it saves the company a ton of money and it sounds like new hires are getting allot of money but in reality shortly after the 12th month they will start loosing money. Oh BB, you are a genius! Ok, maybe not! Does he think new hires are this stupid (Ok maybe), by going to EXJ they would be making this money up in around 10 months. *you will also be taxed around 10% more for the $5,000 than you will for the first year pay increase at another airline so that's $500 lost as well! |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 1160674)
RAH (and AWAC and a bunch of other regionals) did this back in 2006/2007, right?
It was much smaller (that's what she said) |
Thats like 20 new PS3s, where do I sign up?
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I've been told that they have a history of not honoring those bonuses once someones on property
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk
(Post 1160680)
Thats like 20 new PS3s, where do I sign up?
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Originally Posted by Systemized
(Post 1160693)
Or you could buy your girlfriend a nice pair of tits, so she doesn't dump you when she sees your first paycheck.
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$5,000? That's it? I'm a guy who values every nickel I make, but it seems to me that's drastically low, even if it were in good faith. And who is gonna just jump to go to RAH for the $5K?
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Surely it's not one lump sum payment. Does it come in $500 yearly installments?
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Can't wait to see the union's response about this.
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Think seriously about this newbies. You will likely be going into a situation where you will be:
1. Furloughed in September (RAH has furloughed three of the last four years) 2. Faced with the decision to: a) cross a picket line and be branded a scab for life b) be fired from the company during your probationary period for not crossing the line. Do not go to RAH right now! Apply to Expressjet, Skywest, Air Whiskey, anywhere but there. When they get a new contract the world may change, but right now I would honestly advise anyone to fly banners for another six months rather than go to RAH. The pilot group is fighting the fight and anyone that goes there right now is assisting management. The situation is rancid and getting worse by the day. Talk to ANYONE that works there before being "purchased" for $5,000. |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1160675)
*you will also be taxed around 10% more for the $5,000 than you will for the first year pay increase at another airline so that's $500 lost as well! |
But but that is 5,000 lotto tickets.
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pilots should stand together to refuse to be a new hire at RAH till a contract is met. The clear lack of new hires for RAH right now is such huge leverage. Everyone should post on every forum that no one is go to RAH till they get a contract. This is such a great opportunity to unite.
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Originally Posted by stbloc
(Post 1160719)
You obviously have no clue how the tax code works. You pay taxes on you total taxable income so you will get any overpayment back when you file.
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
(Post 1160723)
pilots should stand together to refuse to be a new hire at RAH till a contract is met. The clear lack of new hires for RAH right now is such huge leverage. Everyone should post on every forum that no one is go to RAH till they get a contract. This is such a great opportunity to unite.
Don't go to RAH til the contract is worked out! Support the pilot group you hope to join! (and shoot, I am not at RAH, but I am pulling for ya) |
Stand strong guys, I turned them down for an interview last year, very glad I did know even though it didn't take much thought at 23 bucks an hour times guarantee. Good luck to you all, I hope you can make these management types understand that 20000 a year is not enough let alone 40000 a year. I say minimum 50000 a year for an FO and 100000 for Captains, period, that is what you are all worth at least and maybe then they may be able to entice more qualified competent pilots.
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Whats a $5000 bonus after tax?...about $2500, right?
When is it paid?...after you complete the sim and IOE, right? What happens if the union is able to overturn the bonus before your paid? Bye bye bonus Reality check guys...afterall, you could loose the value of the $2500 in the first year because we have no cancelation pay. Just go to a company that is honest about their pay upfront and doesnt try to play tricks to fool you. |
Originally Posted by What
(Post 1160728)
I do understand how it operates, I was referring at how much tax you will have to pay initially when you receive the $5,000 bonus, the 25-28% of the pie the government will want right away. With the low wages that first year FOs make they should see a portion of that tax returned, but that initial 5K dollar bonus just became $3,750 when they receive it, they have to wait until they file their taxes for the possibility of recouping part of that tax. I was trying to refer how the money initially sounds good but in less than a year it could be made up at one of the other regionals that are hiring. This is only speaking just guarantee pay. If we speak of "soft pay" these new hires could easily overcome the 5K bonus in 6-8 moths at other regionals. Even with the 5K dollar bonus RAH first year pay will be less than most of the regionals hiring.
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
(Post 1160723)
pilots should stand together to refuse to be a new hire at RAH till a contract is met. The clear lack of new hires for RAH right now is such huge leverage. Everyone should post on every forum that no one is go to RAH till they get a contract. This is such a great opportunity to unite.
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Originally Posted by stbloc
(Post 1160766)
Now we are talking on the same level.
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Originally Posted by troyb
(Post 1160772)
Fair enough. Can somebody help me out getting a job somewhere else then?
DO NOT GOTO REPUBLIC UNTIL THEY GIVE THEIR PILOTS A CONTRACT. SPREAD THE WORD. SUPPORT THE MOVEMENT. You will get bent over 100 times and shafted if you do not stick to the guns. We are becoming the desired resource right now on the open market, its time we let supply and demand work and up our price. Do not back down!! Guys on property are stuck on the hand of seniority, but those looking have a choice!! STAND STRONG. |
Refer me. 800/100. App has been in for about four days. PM me.
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Wait, let me get this straight. Republic will give me FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS just for getting hired on and they will let me fly a brand new E175/E190 at $22 to $30 an hour?
brb, getting in line to apply for this job with every other debt-stricken SJS ERAU numb nuts. That will take $5,000 right off my $200,000 student loan! Not serious, but be prepared for swarms of applicants with this type of mentality. Hope the union puts a stop to this. And by the way, what the union at Republic has done up to this point has made me proud. Thanks for sticking up and getting the info out. |
Originally Posted by Omnivorous
(Post 1160799)
Refer me. 800/100. App has been in for about four days. PM me.
See post above. |
If that signing bonus is even true, how is that not a violation of the status quo any less than increasing hourly rates? I am no attorney, but it will be interesting to see how your union responds.
At least you guys know now that you have a nice, long lever to get contract negotiations finished with. The company is obviously VERY concerned about pilot recruitment if they're trying to come up with creative ways to get around actually negotiating a contract between trying to unilaterally increase the hourly wage, pay a signing bonus, and shut down your website. I hope you guys are able to take that lever and place it somewhere useful :) |
Originally Posted by StrikeTime
(Post 1160801)
Wait, let me get this straight. Republic will give me FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS just for getting hired on and they will let me fly a brand new E175/E190 at $22 to $30 an hour?
brb, getting in line to apply for this job with every other debt-stricken SJS ERAU numb nuts. That will take $5,000 right off my $200,000 student loan! Not serious, but be prepared for swarms of applicants with this type of mentality. Hope the union puts a stop to this. And by the way, what the union at Republic has done up to this point has made me proud. Thanks for sticking up and getting the info out. |
Originally Posted by Omnivorous
(Post 1160799)
Refer me. 800/100. App has been in for about four days. PM me.
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Originally Posted by AirbornPegasus
(Post 1160712)
The pilot group is fighting the fight and anyone that goes there right now is assisting management. The situation is rancid and getting worse by the day. The situation is rancid and getting worse by the day. Talk to ANYONE that works there before being "purchased" for $5,000.
Originally Posted by block30
(Post 1160735)
Don't go to RAH til the contract is worked out! Support the pilot group you hope to join! (and shoot, I am not at RAH, but I am pulling for ya)
Originally Posted by Wingtips
(Post 1160723)
pilots should stand together to refuse to be a new hire at RAH till a contract is met. The clear lack of new hires for RAH right now is such huge leverage. Everyone should post on every forum that no one is go to RAH till they get a contract. This is such a great opportunity to unite.
Originally Posted by Wingtips
(Post 1160795)
DO NOT GOTO REPUBLIC UNTIL THEY GIVE THEIR PILOTS A CONTRACT. SPREAD THE WORD. SUPPORT THE MOVEMENT.
Originally Posted by block30
(Post 1160840)
If you mean you just applied at RAH I hope you are joking or being a wise arse. You have been on the forums enough to know what is going on. I wonder how the RAH guys feel that their ability to get a contract, though showing signs of working, is perhaps being impeded by those who can't wait?
Now if the they're released to strike and the new-hires (or anyone) crosses the picket line, the eff 'em. They're scabs. Until then, new-hires are not to be looked down upon. Whoever said that this is like a strike is wrong. It is or it isn't. Let's not water down the definitions. This is an excerpt from RAH Contract NOW! | Teamsters Local 357 If you choose to come work as a pilot here, you will be welcomed by the existing pilot group, but the Union will have a much harder time if you do not have a good grasp of the way things really are. |
Ramping up for AMR flying.
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Originally Posted by block30
(Post 1160840)
If you mean you just applied at RAH I hope you are joking or being a wise arse. You have been on the forums enough to know what is going on. I wonder how the RAH guys feel that their ability to get a contract, though showing signs of working, is perhaps being impeded by those who can't wait?
Gotta run, my student's starting the Cherokee incorrectly again... |
Karma is a ***** .
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Originally Posted by Omnivorous
(Post 1160878)
Gotta run, my student's starting the Cherokee incorrectly again...
Originally Posted by olympic
(Post 1160880)
Karma is a ***** .
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Guys u need to post the name of the new hires that show up and we will add them to our nofly list for the jump seat and if you can video there faces and put them on YouTube that worked wonders for Spirit. Those to guys that flew that MD80 leg were scared to fly the leg back it went viral in two hours.
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
(Post 1160902)
Guys u need to post the name of the new hires that show up and we will add them to our nofly list for the jump seat and if you can video there faces and put them on YouTube that worked wonders for Spirit. Those to guys that flew that MD80 leg were scared to fly the leg back it went viral in two hours.
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