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What 04-02-2012 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by N261ND (Post 1162029)
Tell that to all the loyal Horizon customers (which there are a ton of). Or all of the oil rough necks flying in and out of Williston on Great Lakes. Passengers don't care. Its about the customer service provided and managing the airline properly.
Do these guys have another option up there? It's a fact the majority of passengers are afraid of props and don't like them. I think the post above hit it in the head, AA is dumping the props and so it's Delta. I think all these bankruptcies have to do with what AMR is doing, the other mainlines need to get in line to be able to match what AMR is trying to get.

flysooner9 04-02-2012 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by What (Post 1162115)
But would BB rather get props than see SKW continue to grow? It's a crap shoot!
Look for commutair to pick them up. All ready a sOle provider to united and they are cheap and all ready fly dash 8's. Would make the most sense to me.

bhmdiversion 04-02-2012 05:51 AM
How is anyone getting the court filings? I can't find them anywhere.

howzitchina 04-02-2012 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1162032)
American had the Q400s in DFW during November and December and wants to use them to replace ATRs. United wants more Q400s and was putting first class in them. Qs will have a future because of the price of jet fuel. They will go somewhere, my guess is Skywest or Commutair, maybe Piedmont. We'll see...
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whtever 04-02-2012 05:57 AM
So at this point, is there any chance the turboprop operation (either/both sf340 and/or q400 airplanes, pilots, certificate) can or will be sold to another carrier, moving the crews with the aircraft? I know this has been discussed before, but what is the real life application of the contract regarding this issue. And as for the aircraft, is Pinnacle trying to just give back and default on the q400s, or sell them, making the above question relevant. Seems to me Pinnacle would benefit by cutting the operation and seeing some sort of return from the aircraft it does own, Colgan pilots could benefit with a different opportunity, and the Pinnacle/Mesaba pilots wouldn't have to endure nearly the number of furloughs.

Luv2Rotate 04-02-2012 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by whtever (Post 1162132)
So at this point, is there any chance the turboprop operation (either/both sf340 and/or q400 airplanes, pilots, certificate) can or will be sold to another carrier, moving the crews with the aircraft? I know this has been discussed before, but what is the real life application of the contract regarding this issue. And as for the aircraft, is Pinnacle trying to just give back and default on the q400s, or sell them, making the above question relevant. Seems to me Pinnacle would benefit by cutting the operation and seeing some sort of return from the aircraft it does own, Colgan pilots could benefit with a different opportunity, and the Pinnacle/Mesaba pilots wouldn't have to endure nearly the number of furloughs.
SM doesn't think that far ahead...

Banja 04-02-2012 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by whtever (Post 1162132)
So at this point, is there any chance the turboprop operation (either/both sf340 and/or q400 airplanes, pilots, certificate) can or will be sold to another carrier, moving the crews with the aircraft? I know this has been discussed before, but what is the real life application of the contract regarding this issue. And as for the aircraft, is Pinnacle trying to just give back and default on the q400s, or sell them, making the above question relevant. Seems to me Pinnacle would benefit by cutting the operation and seeing some sort of return from the aircraft it does own, Colgan pilots could benefit with a different opportunity, and the Pinnacle/Mesaba pilots wouldn't have to endure nearly the number of furloughs.
I don't think we have answers to this yet. The airframes are going somewhere though, that's a given. Regardless of whether we can go with them, I would still consider applying for a job wherever they end up.

lolwut 04-02-2012 06:03 AM
Bet you guys feel a little dumb for not just taking the 5% cut for 1 year and avoiding all this.

fogrunner 04-02-2012 06:04 AM
Really sorry to see this development. I have been through BK furloughs and liquidation. IT STINKS!!!

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