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Old 04-14-2012 | 07:52 PM
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I think some have expressed in so many words that they would rather hire an average pilot with a great attitude than a great pilot with a bad attitude. I think if I were hiring people I'd agree. Furloughed pilots should absolutely be given interviews based on their qualifications, but it's a bit much to say that no CFIs should be given jobs with 121 guys on the street.
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Old 04-14-2012 | 08:20 PM
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^ +.5

I would rather hire a lower time pilot like a CFI with a great attitude, over some RJ jockey with a mediocre attitude.

As someone who will likely be on the street soon, I think being 121 should be nothing more than the union folks guarantee you an interview. This is part of a huge problem in this country with people and entitlements. YOUR NOT SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU FLY 121 AND GET FURLOUGHED!! Alpa nationally getting ALPA members at least an interview sounds good. But some jackazz rj clown is not a better pilot or more qualified than someone fresh out the pipeline from being a CFI IMHO.

I think a lack of weeding out bad pilots exists right now. I hope maybe by being furloughed, some of these clowns might finally get brickwall by not getting hired elsewhere. I know a few at my regional, who I assume slipped through the cracks to get in the door. Prol. the same clown who started this thread. TAKE OFF THE HAT!!!
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Old 04-14-2012 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeypat15
As a current 121 guy looking at furlough, a preferential hire would be nice, but I'm definitely not entitled to anything. I would prefer to earn a job than be entitled to one. Just feeds a hazardous attitude.

Also as a former CFI that paid my dues, I think a CFI with a ton of Seminole time that has a great attitude should be given the same chance than a furloughed 121 guy.
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Old 04-14-2012 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeypat15
As a current 121 guy looking at furlough, a preferential hire would be nice, but I'm definitely not entitled to anything. I would prefer to earn a job than be entitled to one. Just feeds a hazardous attitude.

Also as a former CFI that paid my dues, I think a CFI with a ton of Seminole time that has a great attitude should be given the same chance than a furloughed 121 guy.
I agree, honestly, with how many furloughs have happened after 9-11 and then the market crash of '08, would any of these current "121 furloughs" have gotten their chance to get on a 121 carrier as they have if this policy has been in effect? I mean, I know it's tough to get furloughed and be stuck with nothing, but a hiring pool is just that, talent to choose from. Ultimately, the company has to seek someone who represents them and their image, so as long as everybody who gets an interview meets requirements, I guess previous experience really would mean little to nothing in that regard.

Just remember, if a line pilot is interviewing you, he probably isn't thinking that your time spent in an RJ is all that. If it were me doing the interview, my bar would probably be as simple as "do I really want to run a 6 day route with this guy, and be sitting next to him 8 hours a day?"...
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Old 04-14-2012 | 09:07 PM
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Ok, so everyone can agree that all CFIs have great attitudes and all Furloughed RJ guys have horrible attitudes. Gotcha.
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Old 04-14-2012 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
Ok, so everyone can agree that all CFIs have great attitudes and all Furloughed RJ guys have horrible attitudes. Gotcha.
Hasty generalization?
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Old 04-14-2012 | 09:39 PM
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I agree, I have more respect and enjoyment for people I fly with that admit when they are wrong, have humor, and are personable, regardless of ace skills. Good people are exactly that, whether cfi or 121. 'Nuff arguin.



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Old 04-14-2012 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sinsilvia666
I agree, I have more respect and enjoyment for people I fly with that admit when they are wrong, have humor, and are personable, regardless of ace skills. Good people are exactly that, whether cfi or 121. 'Nuff arguin.



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Old 04-15-2012 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
Please write or to talk your reps about giving pref. interviews to the 121 guys that are seeing furloughs. There's absolutely no reason for any company to be considering CFIs with 121 guys on the street.

We had a deal here at XJT back in the day for ACA guys, and it worked well. Furloughed 121 guys paid their dues, CFIs and others can keep on waiting, that's the name of the game folks.
Regional pilot entitlement...should we delay independence day for these guys too?
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Old 04-15-2012 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
Please write or to talk your reps about giving pref. interviews to the 121 guys that are seeing furloughs. There's absolutely no reason for any company to be considering CFIs with 121 guys on the street.

We had a deal here at XJT back in the day for ACA guys, and it worked well. Furloughed 121 guys paid their dues, CFIs and others can keep on waiting, that's the name of the game folks.
If you really want this, then it should go both ways. If furloughed from AA (insert major airline. AA used just as an example), that pilot gets pref. interviews at other major, or legacy airlines over rj pilots. After all, he's used to flying big metal.

Again, would you really want this?
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