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Old 10-26-2006 | 03:19 PM
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reason i wasn't comparing us to oil workers wasn't because we're "not blue collar" but because they'll be gone for months or weeks at a time, when looked at from a yearly perspective, I wouldn't doubt if the time a pilot spends away from home would be close to equal with that of an oil rig worker.

I'm sure that at the upper echelons of the corporate world you'll be looking at top $$'s if a company forces a person to relocate. Often however, relocations in the corporate world are done for the purpose of an upgrade to a higher paid position or different type of occupation inside the same company.

Now, if you are working w/ a company and they ask you to relocate, often they will "assist" you in your move. But the $$'s typcially don't outway the difficulty of relocating your family or the strain on your family from you being gone for those extended periods of time during the commuting.

Our industry is unfortunate in that it doesn't supply the pilots with the job security nor the compensation for living away from station. Same time, they don't tell us to live away from station (choice made by us, smartest choice? often it is....but they could care less, still considered our choice) Typically, the average person, and the average pilot would look @ these things as some of the drawbacks of the professional pilot field....definately difficult on the @ home quality of life.
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Old 10-26-2006 | 03:50 PM
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Please SKY HIGH go where Browntail has gone, you will enjoy each others company!!
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Old 10-26-2006 | 04:24 PM
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Please SKY HIGH go where Browntail has gone, you will enjoy each others company!!

Sorry, I know that I spoil everyones state of denial. It makes it difficult to keep the mass delusion alive.

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Old 10-26-2006 | 05:18 PM
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When it comes to moving, the non-aviation world is not much better. I know a guy who moved out West because he got a great job offer. He moved out there, got the job and went to work. Within a month or so they had gotten what they wanted out of him, and laid him off, told him they did not need his services anymore. So he is stuck in California, he has no job, little money, no family there, no contacts, nothing.

It happens in all industries, especially in competitive fields, and even more so when you are just starting out at the bottom.
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Old 10-26-2006 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Sorry, I know that I spoil everyones state of denial. It makes it difficult to keep the mass delusion alive.

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That sorta of sounds like the "everyone is crazy but me" approach.

I have another question, is it just regionals/airlines you are against, or is it Corporate, Cargo and Charter too??
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Old 10-26-2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
That sorta of sounds like the "everyone is crazy but me" approach.
I have another question, is it just regionals/airlines you are against, or is it Corporate, Cargo and Charter too??
Don't waste your time. He's against success in the Airline career business.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
That sorta of sounds like the "everyone is crazy but me" approach.

I have another question, is it just regionals/airlines you are against, or is it Corporate, Cargo and Charter too??
The high Price paid in education, training and wasted years building experience should demand a high return. If you are able to convert your career into one of the rare jobs that do offer a good wage then I am all for it. The reality is that most of us will be dead ended in places that offer lower wages, lack of security and miserable working conditions.

You are correct, "everyone" is crazy who lays down 150K in training and education costs for the promise of a job that pays less than urban police officer wages. It makes no sense at all and is suggestive of a mass delusion of some kind. Pilots have a great way of putting the blinders on and denying the evidence in order to support their false ideas. Often they are so hungry to prop up their mania for flight that they will generate all types of inaccuracies and falsities in order to give license to feed their addiction. Everything can go by the wayside, friends, family, financial security, hobbies, lifestyle and much more. An actual drug addiction is merciful by comparison.

I'll admit that I too was one of the deluded. Swimming among the addicted many here would like to say that I am crazy, the facts however support the opposite.

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Old 10-27-2006 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
An actual drug addiction is merciful by comparison.

I'll admit that I too was one of the deluded. Swimming among the addicted many here would like to say that I am crazy, the facts however support the opposite.

SkyHigh

Hi, my name is kansas, and I'm an airline pilot... I think I've seen far more druggies homeless on the streets than pilots. But I could be wrong.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kansas
Hi, my name is kansas, and I'm an airline pilot... I think I've seen far more druggies homeless on the streets than pilots. But I could be wrong.
How can you be sure those homeless druggies aren't former pilots? Listen closely, they might be mumbling something about FMSs, EPR, Vspeeds, yaw damps or some other gibberish.
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Old 10-27-2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
The high Price paid in education, training and wasted years building experience should demand a high return.
In that I do agree with you.
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