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Old 05-23-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Management had nothing to do with the SLI. That was all ALPA, more specifically, it was 3 pilots from each airline that had zero experience in SLI negotiations, and each shot for the stars. 2 of the groups were reasonable, 1 group was so far out of touch with reality, it wasn't even funny.
Seriously M.A., you left. Put 9e behind you and enjoy your new job. It'll do wonders for your blood pressure. I know I would!
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:03 PM
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Seriously M.A., you left. Put 9e behind you and enjoy your new job. It'll do wonders for your blood pressure. I know I would!
Don't feed the troll. He feeds on bashing Colgan.
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Management had nothing to do with the SLI. That was all ALPA, more specifically, it was 3 pilots from each airline that had zero experience in SLI negotiations, and each shot for the stars. 2 of the groups were reasonable, 1 group was so far out of touch with reality, it wasn't even funny.
I was speaking moreso about the unprofitable contracts that management bid for knowing full well that they were unsustainable. I think that if we were not losing airframes/flying because of managements poor decisions more people's blood pressure would be lower.
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:44 AM
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You could always go back to farming while I fly. And I'm losing my left seat too
How are you losing your left seat? You said previously you're an 07 hire. The only way you're downgrading is if you were one of the guys that flunked training. I was just in the MEM crew hotel talking to a group of colgan guys, they were all good dudes with the exception of one, an '07 colgan hire whining about his top 20 JFK 200 CA line likely not being commutable enough. I'm a 9E early '07 hire, and I bid top 25 as an FO... For what its worth, the other colgan guys seem to dislike that individual...
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:19 AM
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How are you losing your left seat? You said previously you're an 07 hire. The only way you're downgrading is if you were one of the guys that flunked training. I was just in the MEM crew hotel talking to a group of colgan guys, they were all good dudes with the exception of one, an '07 colgan hire whining about his top 20 JFK 200 CA line likely not being commutable enough. I'm a 9E early '07 hire, and I bid top 25 as an FO... For what its worth, the other colgan guys seem to dislike that individual...
Where have you been?? Only supposedly 75 Colgan CAs will be able to hold left seat in jet once all of Colgan goes away, so most everyone before 05 hire date will be a CA, so most 05 and after guys will be FO again.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:53 PM
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Where have you been?? Only supposedly 75 Colgan CAs will be able to hold left seat in jet once all of Colgan goes away, so most everyone before 05 hire date will be a CA, so most 05 and after guys will be FO again.
Apparently out of the loop. Playing gliders all week, can't even remember how to get into ops. Love it.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:16 PM
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Where have you been?? Only supposedly 75 Colgan CAs will be able to hold left seat in jet once all of Colgan goes away, so most everyone before 05 hire date will be a CA, so most 05 and after guys will be FO again.


Not getting much sympathy. There were already 04 Mesaba hires on the last shuffle that are on the way back to the right seat.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:05 PM
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I will openly admit Mesaba guys hired in the 2000-2003 range got hosed.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GliderCFI View Post
Apparently out of the loop. Playing gliders all week, can't even remember how to get into ops. Love it.
off topic....

What gliderport do you fly out of? When I can find the time, I help out with commercial rides at a glider operation west of PDX. ASW20...nice ship.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:06 PM
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Not getting much sympathy. There were already 04 Mesaba hires on the last shuffle that are on the way back to the right seat.
Dude we're not asking for sympathy! Were did you read that? Your comprehension level must be horrible cause I was telling the other guy that just because your going back as an FO doesnt mean you failed the ride.
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