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ShyGuy 06-24-2012 08:35 AM


Don't act like you are wiser, safer or luckier than us because
I never said any of those things. I only maintain that a regional should not be a final career stop unless one was a mid-life career changer to a regional. No one is safe in the aviation industry, that is true just by definition of what the aviation industry is today.


Wrong. Take a look at my previous post. A guy hired in 1997 pretty much hit the perfect storm. 9/11, age 65, oil through the roof in 07/08.
What about the hiring cycle of 2003-2007? Pinnacle had many pilots escape to Airtran, Southwest, Delta, in this timeframe. In fact, within 2003-2007, everyone except AA was hiring.


But that's okay. You are the "Seer of all Seers, the Knower of all things, the Virgin of all pilots." For your sake, (truly) I hope Virgin takes off and you can thump your chest and tell us all how smart you were. But beware, the next bad thing is just around the corner, and now that you are the FNG at a dicey upstart, you will be the first to be furloughed. Sir Richard is a genius, but part of being smart is knowing when to fold.
Hate much? I write a simple opinion and you go off the ledge? Don't worry about me, I won't worry about you.

FlyJSH 06-24-2012 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1218033)

Hate much? I write a simple opinion and you go off the ledge? Don't worry about me, I won't worry about you.

I don't worry about you, which is why I don't post on the VA threads.

9easy 06-25-2012 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 1217810)
Easy to say, but for some hard to do. Not speaking personally, but I am friends with enough of those that you speak of to see both sides. Not saying I agree, but QOL and pay to easily live on (for a senior bidding CA) can make someone reconsider at the bottom of a list. I remember seeing something about after $100K it doesn't matter the pay compared to QOL for many. If someone lives on $75K a year and home every weekend and holiday, nobody can judge what is "right" for them but them with their families. Age 55 and in the 20's definitely carries a difference in decision making. I remember indoc and being told "we plan on this airline being your stepping-stone". Well, for some that can be 100% true, for others it may not be reality at the dinner table and openly discussing pro's and con's to jumping ship for plans of a better, yet unknown future.

All that has been solidified is that the next chapter of "the race to the bottom" which, seemingly, is being written. Maybe we should get a reality TV show so we can make some money. All snooki had to do was get a pregnant (mush mush) to pay for retirement. Well played myans...well played.

I flew with quite a few captains who said something along the lines of "Why would I leave 9E, I make $75k, and get 18 days off! NK/AT are just Pinnacle with airbuses! Virgin is going out of business! I'd never apply at XXX, the pay is too low!"

Now, a lot of those guys are commuting to DTW, or will get pushed out of MEM whenever delta decides to cut more flights next quarter, will get downgraded, etc etc. You should never get comfortable at a staffing company, especially one that is being run by the crew down in MEM.

Saabs 06-26-2012 07:32 PM

Looks like the final alignment that was due out at 1700 cdt is late....

BitterOHFO 06-26-2012 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1217819)
Now it seems 9E will be the next Comair.

Wow finally some pressure off us!!! Not to get too off topic but what is going on with all the flying for 9E that OH is covering on a daily basis? You guys have more pilots and airplanes then we currently have. I got called off a ready reserve to cover an ALB turn. This has become a daily thing. Good thing the whole company is basically on reserve!!! OH has been the best 6 years of my life!! Thank god we will be out of cash this fall!!!

Seems the gate agent was telling the passenger's that 9E was about to go on strike and some other nonsense. Not sure who told the gate agent that little tidbit but it's not good for the image.

Saabs 06-26-2012 08:40 PM

Nevermind Colgan posted it under the wrong tab....


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